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    07-30-2012, 07:54 AM
Green Broke
I can only speak of the early 2000 late 90, Chevy 2500 diesels, really total crap trucks, very cheap made. The newer ones seem ok, though. Ford has really let me down with the 6.0/6.4 diesels and the 5.4. Love the trucks but the engines are lacking reliability. Dodge had tranny issues for years but I went with an 06, tranny rating was way up, and pre new emmission controls.

I don't think I would think too fondly of a so called 3 horse trailer with 3500lb axles. Is that even legal ? Think about it, 3500 lbs of trailer, plus 3 horses, plus tack ? Maybe some water ? Your overloading. I thought all 3 horse trailers had to come with minumum 5000lb axles.

Vans come in all shapes and sizes. You can get some pretty heavy duty rigs. The van at work is a 3/4 ton with a diesel, pretty sure they are rated like trucks, IE, F150 F250,,,, ford vans are E150 E250 E350, I imagine they have similar tow ratings. I think if I could go back in time I woulda bought a E250 and kept my bumper pull, and fixed up the van as a sleeper. One driver could stretch out and get real sleep on the road.
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    07-30-2012, 08:11 AM
Green Broke
I can't afford anything new on a nurse's salary with a house, teens + horses to support.

If I have to get a different truck and trailer, I am going to be looking at OLD ones or a salvage title deal. I have a friend whose husband has a body shop, so a salvage title could be ok.

It was the transmission that went out on my Dodge TWICE and didn't even get 100,000 miles on it. The Ford I bought with 5 miles on it, and have never *knock on wood* had a single problem with it 150,000 miles later and I don't want to ruin it now by overloading it.

I don't know a thing about the Chevy trucks, I know several folks hauling with Avalances, but I don't know the engine options they are using.
    07-30-2012, 08:43 AM
Green Broke
I thought maybe a used van would be less likely to have been overloaded than a used truck, especially a diesel because most people haul with a truck and may not care if they burn it up.

I over-sized my truck with the Brenderup because it can be hauled by 6 cylinder engines and in Europe they are pulled by cars.
    07-30-2012, 10:15 AM
Green Broke
Not sure aboout used heavy duty vans, but I would expect a small used market. While lots of people buy trucks with big engines then use them only to drive around and look cool I would expect 3/4 and one ton used vans are being sold by commercial and state agencies. These vehicles may have low miles but were driven by people not paying for gas and as such you see them idleing for days, just pay the bit of change for a compression test if you get one. My truck was government owned low mileage auction, sure you could find something similar. I had good service from Ford trucks as well had a 94, 2000, 2004 and 2007 all had over 200,000 on them with lots of towing, never had a bit of problem till this last one with the 5.4. ,
See if you got rid of the teens you could sell the house, get you a nice prefab one bedroom cabin on about 20 acres, have plenty of room for the horses and whatever truck you wanted.
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    07-30-2012, 10:36 AM
Green Broke
Ok, I'm still up for a bit...the teens will eventually move out but I will still need room for the dogs! I like the 20 acre idea, but 100 would be better so I wouldn't have to see my more room for horses.

Ok, a compression test to check for leaks? In the cooling system or transmission?

I saw several used vans on EBay, some least vehicles and some conversion vans. A few handicap ones, but those were pricey and I couldn't think of a reason to keep the lift on one! LOL
    07-30-2012, 11:06 AM
Green Broke
No the compression test is for the engine, you are measuring actual wear on the engine internals. Sometimes commercial and gov engines sit there and idle for ever running heat or AC, so mileage may not be a good indicator of engine wear.
Shop near me will do a pre purchase exam for $100 which includes an engine compression test, among lots of other common things. FInd a small indepent shop and tell em you would like to get a prepurchase exam done on a truck you are thinking of buying and ask what it would cost.
    07-30-2012, 11:08 AM
Green Broke
Joe's right about the 5.4. My co-worker just spend $3500 getting a plug change. One broke off, the extraction tool wouldn't work, and they would up having to pull the engine to get the head off.

How much are you wanting to spend on a truck?

I bought a 99 f-350 dual rear wheel, crew cab, 4x4 with a 7.3 liter diesel last September for $10,000, and have put another $4,000 into it but now have a darn nice tow vehicle.

So, we were looking at fords (they didn't take the money), between 1999 and 2003 with the 7.3......

GM, after the bailout, will never get a dime of my money.
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    07-30-2012, 04:59 PM
Green Broke
I would have a come-apart if I was charged $3500 to change some plugs!!!
    07-30-2012, 05:56 PM
Green Broke
My spark plug job cost me $600, My GF's cost her $800. And like I said I am a marine engineer and tend to do my own maintenance. What is really bad is it is so common the sho has an exact chart on what to charge you based on how many they break, And Napa sells a Ford 5.4 liter engine spark plug removal tool. Probably would work ok if the engine wasnt in the dashbored. Sorry to be slamming FOrd, but geeze Loiuse MY NAME IS JOE FORD ! I am related to the owners and paid for my barn making a killing on ford stock. And I am driving a frikking dodge. That being said my search criteria included a 2003 7.3 Ford, or a 2006 cummings dodge.
    07-30-2012, 05:57 PM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by AnitaAnne    
I would have a come-apart if I was charged $3500 to change some plugs!!!
Well, it happens somewhat frequently with the first few years of 5.4's......

His vehicle had a bad coil and he decided to take it to the shop and let them change the plugs at the same time. In his case, they couldn't get the head off with the engine in the vehicle. (Ford Excursion).

You can read about the problem here:

2006 Ford F-150 Spark Plugs Break Off In Head |

Or, google it.

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