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    01-23-2012, 07:21 PM
Originally Posted by gingerscout    
I pull my horse trailer with a honda accord.. I busted out the back window and ran the gooseneck in there.. so far the trunk hasnt come off and it pulls fine.. and it has a rice rocket exhaust and it scares my neighbors due to its blinding speed.. but not the horses
I thought you were serious and then I reached the rocket exhaust part...
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    01-24-2012, 04:54 AM
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Owning both a gas and diesel at the present time, I can tell you the gas engine is much less expensive to maintain. The 1 ton diesel takes three times the oil for an oil change, more transmission fluid, more cooling...etc.

Because of this, it can be worked harder, and longer, without over heating.

I agree to a point with Joe, a half ton, especially a newer one, can tow a trailer but they do it under more strain than a larger vehicle.

I don't think the "pucker factor" is the same, and a somewhat larger truck offers a more stable ride, has less sway in the corners, has larger brakes, stops better, handles better when the load shifts, and is generally more comfortable to pull with especially at highway speeds.

Some will feel safe pulling with a half ton, others won't and that's the reason I think you'll find more 3/4 and 1 tons in the parking area.

If you're going to make a pull on a hundred degree day up a steep incline the half tons are at greater risk for heat related issues when under a heavy load for a prolonged period of time. I'm of the opinion, half tons are more suited for shorter duration trips, rather than long continuous use pulling a load.

Here in Chattanooga we have some significant hills, (not nearly like out west) and when pulling with the older 3/4 ton gas burner I always tried to plan my pull during the coolest time of the day as I can watch the temp gauge rise in warmer weather.

Face it, a super duty is called a super duty for a reason.
    01-24-2012, 06:24 AM
Lol - it is the sound of the engine that calms my girl down! She stamps the floor till the engine starts - impatient to get going!
    01-24-2012, 10:12 AM
Originally Posted by jumanji321    
I thought you were serious and then I reached the rocket exhaust part...
what I didn't sound serious everyone was complaining like mines better mines better.. so I thought I'd be the comic relief.. a few people thought it was funny
    01-24-2012, 10:13 AM
I agree with gunslinger.
I have towed with many different types gas, diesel, 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton, 1 ton, 2 ton and even

Once I made the switch to diesel, I will never go back to a gas pickup. This is the way I look at it, we are a one vehicle family (except for a 379 Peterbuilt) and our one ton diesel Dodge works great for us. Even though it is one ton it doesn't have the dual rear wheels, it just has the heavy rear end in it. It has survived a life on a ranch that a 1/2 pickup couldn't, it can tow anything I ask of it. So if we decide to get a bigger trailer and more horses we have the truck for it, I wouldn't be shopping for a new truck as well. The fuel mileage, when I have 4 horses loaded up in a metal gooseneck, I still average 17 miles to the gallon! Without towing, using it to run errands, I can get between 24-28 mpg. Depending if I am taking county roads or the freeway. And that's with aggressive treaded tires. How can you argue with having all the towing ability you need and getting the fuel mileage of some cars all in one truck?

Yes they are more expensive to buy, the fuel is a little spendier and they require more oil. But in the long run I think they are worth it. They will outlast a gas motor and they will last forever if you take care of them.

I am going to note, both times I have been in a wreck with a horse trailer(I was NOT the driver both times) it was due to pulling too heavy of a load with a 1/2 ton pickup. So Joe I agree with you, if you tow with a 1/2 ton know your weights and what your truck is capable of towing safely.
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    01-24-2012, 11:37 AM
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I personaly don't understand the references to 1/2 ton, 1ton etc.

We used to tow with a mercedes ML270. Never ever had an issue with it! It is no more noisy then a petrol version, would pull all day, never ever struggled even with the tight narrow steep mountain roads round us and towed a 2 horse trailer out of axle deep mud where even tractors were getting stuck.
    01-24-2012, 12:34 PM
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We tow with a dodge 2500 cummins. I drive a ranger so I don't think well get far with that one haha
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    01-24-2012, 06:00 PM
Pull most of the time with my 2011 F250 Scorpion 6.7(deisel) 4x4 c/cab.
Real quiet on me and horses.
I would imagine that "gassers" that pull horses and back fire on occasion would be good training for potential mounted shooting horses.

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    01-24-2012, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe4d    
You know mostly everyone ? Did you take a survey or just pull that doozie out of thin air ?

Who put a scorpion in your boot thismorning?
    01-24-2012, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by faye    
I personaly don't understand the references to 1/2 ton, 1ton etc.

We used to tow with a mercedes ML270. Never ever had an issue with it! It is no more noisy then a petrol version, would pull all day, never ever struggled even with the tight narrow steep mountain roads round us and towed a 2 horse trailer out of axle deep mud where even tractors were getting stuck.

Generally, the term 1/2 ton refers to how much weight can safely be placed in the bed of the truck or how much weight the rear axle can support.

This really isn't a good term for towing and the terms GVWR and GCWR are a better indicator of how much a vehicle can haul and tow.

HowStuffWorks "How Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR) Works"

My F350 has a Gross Combined Weight Rating of 20,000 lbs. So, the truck weighs 9,000 roughly, and the weight of the truck plus the trailer cannot exceed 20,000 pounds.

The Gross vehicle weight rating is the maximum the truck (or trailer) can weigh loaded and includes passengers and cargo. The GVWR for my F350 is 13,000 pounds, or, 9,000 is the weight of the truck, and loaded with cargo it can weigh 13,000.

Click on the other links on page I've listed above and you'll find more than you wanted to know on how trucks are rated.

Generally, the lighter the truck, the less it can haul or pull.

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