Using a diesel to tow horse trailer. - Page 3 - The Horse Forum
 33Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #21 of 62 Old 01-23-2012, 07:21 PM
Started
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 1,634
• Horses: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by gingerscout View Post
I pull my horse trailer with a honda accord.. I busted out the back window and ran the gooseneck in there.. so far the trunk hasnt come off and it pulls fine.. and it has a rice rocket exhaust and it scares my neighbors due to its blinding speed.. but not the horses
I thought you were serious and then I reached the rocket exhaust part...
jumanji321 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #22 of 62 Old 01-24-2012, 04:54 AM
Green Broke
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: SE TN
Posts: 4,537
• Horses: 3
Owning both a gas and diesel at the present time, I can tell you the gas engine is much less expensive to maintain. The 1 ton diesel takes three times the oil for an oil change, more transmission fluid, more cooling...etc.

Because of this, it can be worked harder, and longer, without over heating.

I agree to a point with Joe, a half ton, especially a newer one, can tow a trailer but they do it under more strain than a larger vehicle.

I don't think the "pucker factor" is the same, and a somewhat larger truck offers a more stable ride, has less sway in the corners, has larger brakes, stops better, handles better when the load shifts, and is generally more comfortable to pull with especially at highway speeds.

Some will feel safe pulling with a half ton, others won't and that's the reason I think you'll find more 3/4 and 1 tons in the parking area.

If you're going to make a pull on a hundred degree day up a steep incline the half tons are at greater risk for heat related issues when under a heavy load for a prolonged period of time. I'm of the opinion, half tons are more suited for shorter duration trips, rather than long continuous use pulling a load.

Here in Chattanooga we have some significant hills, (not nearly like out west) and when pulling with the older 3/4 ton gas burner I always tried to plan my pull during the coolest time of the day as I can watch the temp gauge rise in warmer weather.

Face it, a super duty is called a super duty for a reason.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Last edited by gunslinger; 01-24-2012 at 05:04 AM.
gunslinger is offline  
post #23 of 62 Old 01-24-2012, 06:24 AM
Foal
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Essex , England
Posts: 70
• Horses: 1
Lol - it is the sound of the engine that calms my girl down! She stamps the floor till the engine starts - impatient to get going!
chrisnscully is offline  
post #24 of 62 Old 01-24-2012, 10:12 AM
Green Broke
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: IN a state
Posts: 2,587
• Horses: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by jumanji321 View Post
I thought you were serious and then I reached the rocket exhaust part...
what I didn't sound serious enough....lol everyone was complaining like mines better mines better.. so I thought I'd be the comic relief.. a few people thought it was funny

Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.
gingerscout is offline  
post #25 of 62 Old 01-24-2012, 10:13 AM
Trained
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: The sandbox
Posts: 5,539
• Horses: 0
I agree with gunslinger.
I have towed with many different types gas, diesel, 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton, 1 ton, 2 ton and even tractors..lol..

Once I made the switch to diesel, I will never go back to a gas pickup. This is the way I look at it, we are a one vehicle family (except for a 379 Peterbuilt) and our one ton diesel Dodge works great for us. Even though it is one ton it doesn't have the dual rear wheels, it just has the heavy rear end in it. It has survived a life on a ranch that a 1/2 pickup couldn't, it can tow anything I ask of it. So if we decide to get a bigger trailer and more horses we have the truck for it, I wouldn't be shopping for a new truck as well. The fuel mileage, when I have 4 horses loaded up in a metal gooseneck, I still average 17 miles to the gallon! Without towing, using it to run errands, I can get between 24-28 mpg. Depending if I am taking county roads or the freeway. And thats with aggressive treaded tires. How can you argue with having all the towing ability you need and getting the fuel mileage of some cars all in one truck?

Yes they are more expensive to buy, the fuel is a little spendier and they require more oil. But in the long run I think they are worth it. They will outlast a gas motor and they will last forever if you take care of them.

I am going to note, both times I have been in a wreck with a horse trailer(I was NOT the driver both times) it was due to pulling too heavy of a load with a 1/2 ton pickup. So Joe I agree with you, if you tow with a 1/2 ton know your weights and what your truck is capable of towing safely.
Posted via Mobile Device
MangoRoX87 likes this.
COWCHICK77 is offline  
post #26 of 62 Old 01-24-2012, 11:37 AM
Green Broke
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Some times Llanelian - North wales, sometimes Hull in East Yorkshire (UK)
Posts: 3,679
• Horses: 5
I personaly don't understand the references to 1/2 ton, 1ton etc.

We used to tow with a mercedes ML270. Never ever had an issue with it! It is no more noisy then a petrol version, would pull all day, never ever struggled even with the tight narrow steep mountain roads round us and towed a 2 horse trailer out of axle deep mud where even tractors were getting stuck.

RIDE your horse FORWARDS and keep him STRAIGHT

faye is offline  
post #27 of 62 Old 01-24-2012, 12:34 PM Thread Starter
Green Broke
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 2,841
• Horses: 0
We tow with a dodge 2500 cummins. I drive a ranger so I don't think well get far with that one haha
Posted via Mobile Device
Cowgirls Boots is offline  
post #28 of 62 Old 01-24-2012, 06:00 PM
Foal
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Edge of Fla/Everglades(sw side)
Posts: 228
• Horses: 3
Pull most of the time with my 2011 F250 Scorpion 6.7(deisel) 4x4 c/cab.
Real quiet on me and horses.
I would imagine that "gassers" that pull horses and back fire on occasion would be good training for potential mounted shooting horses.

Rawhide
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 002.jpg (55.0 KB, 280 views)
Rawhide is offline  
post #29 of 62 Old 01-24-2012, 06:13 PM
Green Broke
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Was in Ocala, Fl Now In West Union SC!
Posts: 3,175
• Horses: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe4d View Post
You know mostly everyone ? Did you take a survey or just pull that doozie out of thin air ?

Who put a scorpion in your boot thismorning?

My name is now my horses on a dor not my horse sonador
myhorsesonador is offline  
post #30 of 62 Old 01-24-2012, 06:45 PM
Green Broke
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: SE TN
Posts: 4,537
• Horses: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by faye View Post
I personaly don't understand the references to 1/2 ton, 1ton etc.

We used to tow with a mercedes ML270. Never ever had an issue with it! It is no more noisy then a petrol version, would pull all day, never ever struggled even with the tight narrow steep mountain roads round us and towed a 2 horse trailer out of axle deep mud where even tractors were getting stuck.

Generally, the term 1/2 ton refers to how much weight can safely be placed in the bed of the truck or how much weight the rear axle can support.

This really isn't a good term for towing and the terms GVWR and GCWR are a better indicator of how much a vehicle can haul and tow.

HowStuffWorks "How Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR) Works"

My F350 has a Gross Combined Weight Rating of 20,000 lbs. So, the truck weighs 9,000 roughly, and the weight of the truck plus the trailer cannot exceed 20,000 pounds.

The Gross vehicle weight rating is the maximum the truck (or trailer) can weigh loaded and includes passengers and cargo. The GVWR for my F350 is 13,000 pounds, or, 9,000 is the weight of the truck, and loaded with cargo it can weigh 13,000.

Click on the other links on page I've listed above and you'll find more than you wanted to know on how trucks are rated.

Generally, the lighter the truck, the less it can haul or pull.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Last edited by gunslinger; 01-24-2012 at 06:50 PM.
gunslinger is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Meet my horse, Diesel :) breezy17 Horse Pictures 8 10-12-2011 05:34 PM
Can I trailer a horse safely without trailer mats? Rosebud64 Horse Trailers 2 08-01-2011 06:14 PM
Wants: cheap used horse trailer or stock trailer cattleman Horse Tack and Equipment 3 09-14-2008 01:46 PM
Diesel says.. LoveMyAppy Horse Pictures 11 01-06-2008 12:22 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome