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Will a v6 tow a trailer

I am looking at getting a newer truck. I currently have a 2 door 4 cylinder truck and we need a 4 door for the family and i use it for picking up building supplies and carrying surfboards . I have been looking at the nissan frontier 2008 se v6 4 liter crew cab automatic, I am hoping it will pull a trailer , i am not going to be trailering every weekend just now and again . it has a 6000lb?towing capacity so i am hoping it will be up to the job. I cant justify a gas guzzling v8. thoughts please
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post #2 of 34 Old 06-16-2014, 05:16 PM
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Does it have a tow package installed? If not, forget it.
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Originally Posted by neil foreman View Post
I am looking at getting a newer truck. I currently have a 2 door 4 cylinder truck and we need a 4 door for the family and i use it for picking up building supplies and carrying surfboards . I have been looking at the nissan frontier 2008 se v6 4 liter crew cab automatic, I am hoping it will pull a trailer , i am not going to be trailering every weekend just now and again . it has a 6000lb?towing capacity so i am hoping it will be up to the job. I cant justify a gas guzzling v8. thoughts please
I work for a corporate dealership and I say when pulling a trailer, GVW isn't something you want to cut it close on. It SAYS 6,000LB towing capacity, but this is an estimation. If you're not 100% confident it will pull your trailer with ease, DO NOT do it. One, you'll be sucking down more fuel than a capable "gas guzzling" V8 trying to get a V6 to pull something like that. Also, its safer to be well within the weight that it's capable pulling.

So many things can go wrong if you over load a truck AND an engine. It's so much safer and it will save you fuel to go with a capable V8. It's a better ride, and you'll have the peace of mind that you won't be overloaded.
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With a tow package, yes, it will tow a horse trailer with some caveats.

First, make sure the towing capacity is higher than the weight of your fully loaded trailer + 20% safety margin. You can get a very ultra-lightweight trailer (like Brenderups) but these are no longer manufactured/sold in the US, are harder to find, and are very expensive. A more feasible option is to get a "standard" steel two horse trailer and ONLY haul ONE horse in it. Period. No exceptions. If you have two small horses/ponies and you get an aluminum trailer... MAYBE you can haul two at a time (but run the math before you try it to make sure it's well within specs)

Second, get a weight distribution hitch, get the attachments installed on the trailer, and use it every time you haul, no matter how short the drive. Weight distribution systems improve towing performance and make it safer, especially when you have a lower-powered vehicle.

Having a V6 truck is going to limit your trailer options to two-horse bumper pulls, and as mentioned above, unless it's a very very lightweight trailer, you're only going to be able to haul one horse in it. Consider if this is a tradeoff you're willing to make.
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Will it pull it? Maybe

Will it stop it? Maybe

Is is safe? Maybe

The V-6 without a load is rated at 15/19 mpg not very good for a mid-size truck


Vehicles are rated to pull dead weight not live Horses, so you must take that into account.....

The Frontier is a mid-size truck, not a full size, narrower, shorter

No way would I pull my Horses with it, JMHO

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post #6 of 34 Old 06-16-2014, 05:47 PM
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I have a ford Ranger V6 Fx4 Level 2. It has a towing capacity of 5,885 pounds. But I will never haul my horses with it. It just seems unsafe and pushing the limits. I also only get 15 mpg. My dad's powerstroke gets better gas mileage then mine.

We also have a standard 99' Dodge Ram 1500, and I still wouldn't want that to haul my horses. I'll stick to the Ford Powerstroke.
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Will it? Most likely, will it do it safely? Not so much...
Honestly trucks really aren't that bad of gas guzzlers, they've been making them more fuel efficient recently.

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Just for gas mileage reference, my 2011 F-150 V8 4x4 Crew Cab is averaging 18mpg on my daily 38 mile roundtrip commute in stop & go rush hour. If I'm cruising down the highway at 70mpg on a weekend, I get 20+mpg. Not bad for a big truck! I don't have a trailer yet, though, so I'm not sure what my towing mileage will be like.
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When Dodge first came out with a Cummins diesel, we bought...what they had, which I still own, a 3/4 ton, 1993 model. It came with a tow package, and is set up for bumper hitch with sway bars, gooseneck and has the correct wiring and hand brakes. It is now for sale (with 117,000 miles, it lives in a garage) and I put about 1,000 miles/year on it, mostly hauling hay. The story is to tell you that there is even a market for my OLD truck.
In 2008, DH and I bought a Full ton Dodge Cummins, 4 x 4 Doolie, with the bells and whistles. We paid ~$38K for this, and got it for $10K less than full price bc it was the 2007 model. It is now paid off.
I didn't want to make you gasp at the price, but diesel trucks are the ONLY way to go IMHO when you pull a horse trailer. You can afford them, if you shop around. EVERYTHING right now is a buyer's market, including trucks. Trucks are an EXCELLENT investment, and diesel truck engines aren't worn out (with normal wear) until they have about 300,000 miles on them.
We will probably not ever buy another truck.
We have about 50K miles on this new truck, but that's bc my DH likes to take this truck on vacations to CO. He is 6'5" and swears that this is the ONLY vehicle we own that he really fits in, although he's pretty comfortable in the Toyota Avalon, too.
Btw, I'm selling the old truck bc I need a compact car for my work, but's it's really painful to sell my workhorse, dubbed "The Duck Truck."

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You are right...the American full-size trucks that are taken care of and not abused in looks and are maintained are holding there value, and holding it well. And they are lasting easily doing their jobs...
I have a 2003 with low mileage and it is worth well more than 1/2 what I paid for it new any day I wish to sell it. Astounding what people have offered for it...crazy!

I would not think, actually I know that the small/mid-size trucks are not holding their value as well.
More than that...the difference in fuel economy is not that much as you know by what you are driving...
That is actually why they are gone from the market today as new vehicles. The could not meet the new federal mileage and safety standards so they are gone till the manufacturers figure something out...
The "imports" fly in under the radar for much as they are still "imports" but the federal regulations are now catching up to them too in safety standards...suddenly they don't get the same woo-hoo ratings as they use to.

There is no way I would hook any size HORSE trailer to those mid-size let alone smaller trucks/SUV under any condition, regardless of airbags or weight distribution hitches used. They are not made with the same strength and sized parts. Don't care if American made or "foreign"...
I don't care what the "paperwork" says it can do... it truly can't do it well with a safe ride for human or animal passenger.
Dead weight and live cargo weight
allowances are very different but try getting a honest answer to that question...

It is no fun going sideways because you're being pushed... those that do this with a shorter wheel-based and lighter vehicle to save a few dollars... scary to think about the what-ifs and the fact that the what-ifs occur more often when a truck is maxed out in capabilities...to me a recipe for a disaster happening sooner instead of much later.

When the trailer you tow has a wider wheel distance/stance and a longer nose to tail length.. give me shivers just thinking about it!!
Sorry, I am of "old-school" and those lighter made imports of Toyota, Nissan,etc..will just never have the beef to do the same job as a domestic brand of Chevy, Dodge or Ford.

There truly is a reason why seasoned haulers of horse or even camping trailers{they are light in weight} tow with full-sized vehicles....

Glad I am not the only one Corporal who still believes in "old-school" tried and true proved what is safer for towing....

Diesel or gas engine right now is a toss-up. With the price of diesel engines costing as much as a additional $10,000 to the cost and diesel fuel substantially more expensive today.... that is a lot of gas.
The fact though diesel engines last longer...well they also cost more to maintain too. The truck itself though needs to last that long too.
They do hands down have more tow power...guess it is torque. If though you don't need to be doing 60+mph like a jack rabbit or fly up steeper hills gas can do you just fine too.

Me...I will haul with my 3500 too... and I have a 2500 also I do use for towing and it gets near as good mileage as many cars of the same category {luxury}....in fact as good if not better than my own car does!

off to my corner to be quiet and lurk......
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