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post #21 of 34 Old 06-18-2014, 09:13 AM
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I would lean towards agreeing on that, I've spent a lot of time reviewing the durability and construction methods used in some of the import pickups and they are simply not up to par with the domestics, therefore I do give the fuzzy eyeball to some of their tow ratings accordingly.

Whereas I might be willing to say somebody with a domestic pick up could toll right up to the limits of their vehicle, I would be more apt to leave a buffer with an import pick up simply because they aren't built the same.
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post #22 of 34 Old 06-22-2014, 02:33 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the input everyone. My farrier agreed that a half ton truck is the least i should go for.I think I am going to go for a half ton truck with 4 doors. Its a toss up between a ram 1500, f150 or chevy 1500. I might go smalller on the engine and do a 6 cylinder auto as I honestly see myself rarely hauling and if I do I am happy to go slooow.
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My son was going to give me his. I talked to my mechanic and he said it would pull the two horse with one horse but expect it to slow right down on the hills and guzzle gas as it struggles for more power. We tried the two-horse with a light horse, with a Chevy 6. On one hill it had to be put in 4 wheel drive and even then it was struggling to keep up with traffic.
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Meh. I get the 'look' from people at rides on a semi-regular basis. The judgy one. For towing a light two horse bp with my 2nd gen Tacoma (with factory tow, cooler, weight distro and sway hookup). I have people ride with me and constantly get comments along the lines of, "I was skeptical, but it does way better than I expected." I also am an extremely cautious hauler, which has nothing to do with my truck and everything to do with me fully expecting other drivers to be incompetent blind idiots.

My gas mileage sucks hauling, but I can only afford one vehicle right now and wanted something that didn't make me or my wallet miserable as a daily driver too. I have hauled across the country and to more day rides and overnights than I can count. The only 'issue' I have had is that it is a manual transmission, so if someone stops in front of me going up a steep hill, I have to curse them a bit as we get going again. That goes no matter if I'm hauling or not.

Not sure I'd try a Nissan for towing, but I haven't looked at stats and reviews, so maybe I would. Ideally I'd have a big truck for towing and a little car for daily use, but having two vehicles is a luxury that's not mine atm. If you can, or if you're willing to drive and pay for a big truck for daily use, go for it. But smaller trucks can and do haul smaller loads without issue. You just have to be mindful on weight and leave yourself a safety margin.
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post #25 of 34 Old 06-22-2014, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by .Delete. View Post
I work for a corporate dealership and I say when pulling a trailer, GVW isn't something you want to cut it close on. It SAYS 6,000LB towing capacity, but this is an estimation. If you're not 100% confident it will pull your trailer with ease, DO NOT do it. One, you'll be sucking down more fuel than a capable "gas guzzling" V8 trying to get a V6 to pull something like that. Also, its safer to be well within the weight that it's capable pulling.

So many things can go wrong if you over load a truck AND an engine. It's so much safer and it will save you fuel to go with a capable V8. It's a better ride, and you'll have the peace of mind that you won't be overloaded.
I sure do agree with this! I have a Dodge Dakota V8 Quad Cab with a complete tow package including the adjustable electric brake control. We have routinely towed trailers up to 3200 lbs but that is definitely getting to the edge of feeling unsafe even though the truck has quite a high towing capacity stated in the manual.

It's not just the weight that makes a difference. Horses move around back there and with too small a truck you can sometime feel like you are being pulled off the road if they are dancing around. If you don't have the brake control adjusted just right you can easily slide right through an intersection and steep hills are a struggle.

In looking for an alternate trailer I have only found the all aluminum or some of the European style trailers to have a empty gross weight low enough to feel safe, and bear in mind my truck is a V8, not a V6.

Unless you are able to find an affordable "super light" trailer I'd suggest getting a bigger truck with more power. Beating a V6 to death is going to cost you in major repairs sooner rather than later.
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I actually tried towing with a 2011 v6 nissan frontier....that didn't last long. It just struggled up hills and I had a very lightweight trailer and I just didn't feel safe. It got traded in pretty fast! I bought it before I had my horse, so attempted to see if it would work...but I was not happy with it. My dad installed a break controller thing so that made me feel a bit safer but it just felt so underpowered.
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post #27 of 34 Old 06-23-2014, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Cynical25 View Post
Just for gas mileage reference, my 2011 F-150 V8 4x4 Crew Cab is averaging 18mpg on my daily 38 mile roundtrip commute in stop & go rush hour. If I'm cruising down the highway at 70mpg on a weekend, I get 20+mpg. Not bad for a big truck! I don't have a trailer yet, though, so I'm not sure what my towing mileage will be like.


I was going to get a Nissan but the F-150 with a 5.4 gets as good of or better mileage and has an 8500# towing capacity. Plus its a full size truck.
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post #28 of 34 Old 06-23-2014, 06:16 AM
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There are a couple of issues as I see it.

Pulling with an undersized vehicle opens you up to litigation should you be involved in an accident. You might want to talk with your insurance agent.

Pulling at maximum capacity generates more heat. More heat means shortened life span of key components. Transmission, clutch, universal joints, brakes, etc which are stressed. Pull in August and the problem multiplies.

Stopping distances are increased and people just seem to love to pull out in front of someone towing a trailer.

This past weekend while pulling on a forest service road in the mountains of East Tennessee my wife said I smell something burning. We were both wondering if it were coming from our vehicle and then we came up on another vehicle towing a horse trailer in front of us. His brakes were hot and that's what we were smelling.

I know people have to make due with what they can afford, but IMO this is an area where I'd rather have a little to much truck or something that doesn't approach it's maximum towing capacity.

If you're only going to pull on flat ground for a few miles once or twice a year then you might get away with it for awhile.

Personally, I tow with a 99 f350 4x4 dually with a 7.3 liter diesel...rated at 20,000 pounds total gross vehicle weight. It's more truck than necessary but it sure makes towing a whole lot less stressful.

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post #29 of 34 Old 06-25-2014, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by neil foreman View Post
I am looking at getting a newer truck. I currently have a 2 door 4 cylinder truck and we need a 4 door for the family and i use it for picking up building supplies and carrying surfboards . I have been looking at the nissan frontier 2008 se v6 4 liter crew cab automatic, I am hoping it will pull a trailer , i am not going to be trailering every weekend just now and again . it has a 6000lb?towing capacity so i am hoping it will be up to the job. I cant justify a gas guzzling v8. thoughts please
Just wanted to add that i have the exact truck you described except a year older. (2007 Nissan Frontier Auto V6 4.0) and it tows my two horse trailer with my quarter horse in there with ease. it has a towing package. Usually we use our other truck which is also a V6 ( 2013 Ram 1500) which i believe is only a 3.6 so the nissan has a bigger engine.
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Originally Posted by evilamc View Post
I actually tried towing with a 2011 v6 nissan frontier....that didn't last long. It just struggled up hills


but it just felt so underpowered.
For what it's worth, the ability of a vehicle to tow up a hill without slowing down doesn't relate to safety.

Tractor trailers slow down on grades. We do it because putting 2000 horsepower under the hood that would be necessary to prevent it would be stupid when the 400 or so we normally have is more than adequate the other 99% of the time.

It doesn't make my tractor any less of a tow vehicle.

Again, this does full circle to the mindset that anything short of a dually that you can put on cruise control and roar up mountains with 1 finger on the steering wheel is what you need to tow a few thousand pounds.

So it slowed down, who cares. Let it. Work with its capabilities. As long as it's stable, you are able to maintain a *reasonable* speed to not fall ridiculously below the flow of traffic,and it stops properly, horsepower needn't be at the top of the priority list.
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