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        06-24-2013, 12:45 PM
      #11
    Weanling
    I can't think of one insurance company that allows you to claim a horse because s it's dangerous and has been put down. Illness, yes. Sudden death, yes. Life altering injury, yes. Being put down due to temperament or training issues?

    Who does she have this insurance with? I need to give them a call if this is the case.
         
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        06-24-2013, 12:49 PM
      #12
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
    *Whispers* What's a PSG horse, OK it suddenly hit me



    They haven't fallen on me yet, I'm still trying to figure it out.
         
        06-24-2013, 12:57 PM
      #13
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JCnGrace    
    They haven't fallen on me yet, I'm still trying to figure it out.

    It's means Prix St. George. It's a high level of dressage.
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        06-24-2013, 01:07 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
    I don't know of a single insurance policy that pays out when a horse is put down without serious health reasons.

    The pay out for death is always an "accidental" death. Not "horse is dangerous so i'm putting it down". Just like it does not cover a horse being put down for old age.

    The BO doesn't want to rehome him because she doesn't want to be responsible for someone getting hurt. She knows the horse rears and it has gone over. Imagine the guilt of handing that horse off to someone else, knowing it's history, and the horse rears over and kills the new rider. Even passing him off as a pasture companion. Someone is going to go "oh look he's nice and quiet on the ground and he is sound. I want to try and ride him!" then the person gets on, horse goes over backwards and kills the rider. It is just to dangerous. While he may be a nice and sweet horse, he could likely kill someone some day.
         
        06-24-2013, 01:13 PM
      #15
    Green Broke
    Rearing can happen for no reason, as in, it is not always the rider's fault.

    My last mare had a significant rearing issue. I'm assuming she reared once with her last owner out of fear or sticky feet, he did not correct it or got off and stopped riding.

    So, she got it in her head to rear whenever she wanted to stop working or didn't want to go away from the barn. She was a nightmare. Some days she was awesome, but the bad days outweighed the good. I ended up retraining her enough to where she would go away from the barn quietly and then I sold her (with full disclosure). It was unfortunate, because she was an awesome horse.

    Point being, it isn't fair to say, "Horses don't rear for no reason, it is the rider's fault," because that is not true.
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        06-24-2013, 01:18 PM
      #16
    Foal
    OP did the horse rear and flip after the BO purchased him or did that happen before she purchased him?
         
        06-24-2013, 01:19 PM
      #17
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by NBEventer    
    The BO doesn't want to rehome him because she doesn't want to be responsible for someone getting hurt. She knows the horse rears and it has gone over. Imagine the guilt of handing that horse off to someone else, knowing it's history, and the horse rears over and kills the new rider. Even passing him off as a pasture companion. Someone is going to go "oh look he's nice and quiet on the ground and he is sound. I want to try and ride him!" then the person gets on, horse goes over backwards and kills the rider. It is just to dangerous. While he may be a nice and sweet horse, he could likely kill someone some day.

    So he deserves to die? She doesnt have to, or need to, sell the horse. And if she does, as long as she is honest about the horse's past, then there should be no reason for her to feel guilty. There is no reason this horse cannot be properly trained and ridden by an experienced rider. If she feels too nervous about selling the horse, then she can keep it. Putting down a perfectly healthy horse just because she isn't qualified to ride it is completely irresposible. She should not have bought the horse without properly vetting it's background and training first. This was her mistake, and she needs to live with it.

    I don't know how someone could claim to love horses, and yet so easily murder one just because it may not suit his/her needs. All horses are dangerous. They are 1,000 pound animals with a mind of their own. All horses rear, whether it be under saddle or not. People simply need to learn how to properly deal with the situation.
         
        06-24-2013, 01:23 PM
      #18
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by Sunny    
    I'm assuming she reared once with her last owner out of fear or sticky feet, he did not correct it or got off and stopped riding.

    You simply proved my point. The RIDER did not correct the issue, and so she continued to rear.

    Also, I said it was usually the rider's fault, not a definite always. Let's not quote incorrectly.

    Your solution was to deal with the issue, retrain, and learn to work with the horse. NOT to put it down because of a flaw. That's all I'm stating.
         
        06-24-2013, 01:24 PM
      #19
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by thatkrayz    
    So he deserves to die? She doesnt have to, or need to, sell the horse. And if she does, as long as she is honest about the horse's past, then there should be no reason for her to feel guilty. There is no reason this horse cannot be properly trained and ridden by an experienced rider. If she feels too nervous about selling the horse, then she can keep it. Putting down a perfectly healthy horse just because she isn't qualified to ride it is completely irresposible. She should not have bought the horse without properly vetting it's background and training first. This was her mistake, and she needs to live with it.

    I don't know how someone could claim to love horses, and yet so easily murder one just because it may not suit his/her needs. All horses are dangerous. They are 1,000 pound animals with a mind of their own. All horses rear, whether it be under saddle or not. People simply need to learn how to properly deal with the situation.

    I am not going to sit here and argue with you. But the fact remains that the horse world is over populated. We have millions of horses out there who do not have a deadly dangerous habit that need homes.

    But as you are new, I will give you a heads up about this forum. The majority of members on this forum are realistic. We all love horses. But we all know that some horses simply are dangerous and its safer for everyone that the animal be PTS. Oh and a good chunk of members here are pro-slaughter. Another heads up

    The horses current owner may sell the horse with the disclaimer. But what if that person decides to sell the horse after it goes over backwards on them and they don't provide the disclosure of the horses deadly vice?
         
        06-24-2013, 01:25 PM
      #20
    Green Broke
    Oh and an add on. It may not be a training issue. It could very well not even be a pain issue. Its just something the horse does. Not every horse can be "fixed" with training.
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