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Clinton Anderson Academy Concern

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#1 ·
Why are so many of the people Clinton Anderson certified as his clinicians no longer a part of his company?

I'm considering going to his academy myself, but if it isn't a sustainable job...
Are these people getting kicked out?
Did they decide not to pay the $10,000 annual licensing/advertising fee and that s why they re not on the website?
Or is Clinton so picky that no one can make this a viable career???
 
#35 ·
Dale is doing a clinic about 3 hours from me next year in Lynnville TN. I have considered going. But a couple of my friends want to get together and do a 10 day clinic at the ranch. From what I have seen, either way I decide is money well spent.

Clinton is doing a walk about tour in Memphis in April. I'm considering sending him a video so he can consider using my appy as a demo horse for this event.
 
#36 ·
People talk about Clinton Anderson from varying levels of comprehension of what he teaches. In increasing order of offering a clue, they are:
  1. Seeing an episode of his show on RFD-TV or YouTube
  2. Watching him compete in Road to the Horse
  3. Attending a Walkabout Tour
  4. Reading his Downunder Horsemanship book
  5. Studying the fundamentals kit
  6. Attending a clinic with your horse.
Most of Clinton's detractors have obviously never gotten past #1, because if they had, they would have heard him say over and over and over again how "this horse is reacting this way, but another horse might react like this, and here's how you adapt the technique to the horse." They also would have heard him say over and over and over that what I'm demonstrating here is nothing like how I recommend you train. If I had this horse at the ranch we would be doing this for X number of days before we moved on to the next step."

You could put the fundamentals kit or the colt starting kit on RFD-TV but nobody would watch him spend 45 minutes just moving his hands all over a horse and patiently working through every "don't touch me there" spot.

If you don't like his TV show, don't watch it, but even in those episodes he repeats that what he is showing is a radically accelerated, abbreviated snapshot of his method.
 
#37 ·
I do absolutely appreciate - & I'm sure have said so before - that I have only seen 'snapshots' of what he's about. So far as I've seen its not about teaching you what he does, but giving examples & advertising. That's fine by me. I just don't like a lot of what I've seen, that's all. And if that's his advertisements and I don't agree with it, why would I pay for a clinic? Assuming he comes 'down under'.
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#38 ·
I do absolutely appreciate - & I'm sure have said so before - that I have only seen 'snapshots' of what he's about. So far as I've seen its not about teaching you what he does, but giving examples & advertising. That's fine by me. I just don't like a lot of what I've seen, that's all. And if that's his advertisements and I don't agree with it, why would I pay for a clinic? Assuming he comes 'down under'.
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First... I hope you are safe from the bush fires that we are hearing about.

When I finally decided to join my wife in her passion for horses, I was a rank novice. Seriously, I knew the food went in below the nose somewhere...the poop came out under the tail and based on observations had figured out where the term "I need to pee like a racehorse" came from. Other than that....totally ignorant.

So, armed with this ignorance but willing to learn, I searched for a system that worked. Tried the Pat and Linda stuff, but it just made me want to fall asleep, join a commune and wear patchouli. I kid, well not really, but suffice to say I just don't mesh with that system.

I bought a Clinton Anderson "Philosophy" and found it was a simple, step by step, easy to follow method. Do THIS....expect THAT. Are not getting THAT? This..this..this...this and this are common reasons why. Check your method and try again. No whispering into my horses ears or trying to use the "wheel of personality" to determine how to get my horse to do something. Now a few years in, I value and appreciate a plethora of trainers and basically pick and choose cafeteria style what works for me. No one person has a corner on the market of good ideas and training methods and not all work for all people and horses.

I'm not a DUH groupie or "tribe" type person, I am just appreciative of a system that worked and still works for me.
 
#41 ·
What about the guy who helps people with horses for free? It's the horses that are suffering when only the rich can afford them. Horses are being killed off or slaughtered. When Tom Dorrance started traveling around helping people with horses I'll bet he only got a meal and a place to stay for a while. When I was a kid I did work my butt off just to be near horses.
 
#42 ·
Loosie, CA and Ian Francis was at the Queensland State Equestrian Center on Dec 19-20th. From the pictures I have seen, it was almost a packed house.

 
#45 ·
I tried out for the Academy myself, and was not chosen due to slight difference between myself and the two that were chosen that I tried out with. I've talked with several of the clinicians that are no longer with the company, and the majority decision to not stay with the company was that, "The business just wasn't there after about a year or so of traveling around doing clinics". I have a lot of respect for the method but not necessarily for the companies business practices. Not being chosen actually opened my eyes to a lot of things, and I don't think it would have been the best decision for me to have gone through. Also there is a 3 year non-compete clause that you are required to sign in order to graduate, that's a little steep for any business to ask you to do. About a year is reasonable. Hope this helps, and good luck!
 
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