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post #91 of 139 Old 09-29-2013, 03:06 PM
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Good job on the foundation, I bet he was different! That face says mom this is harrrrddd work!
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post #92 of 139 Old 09-29-2013, 04:23 PM
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That's awesome! Nothing like work to settle out a green horse.
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post #93 of 139 Old 09-29-2013, 05:39 PM
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Or the old cowboy saying that it takes wet saddle blankets to settle a horse down.
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post #94 of 139 Old 09-30-2013, 03:37 PM
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I understand your frustration. If you and a trainer agree that for x amt of dollars, I will have this horse with a bit in his mouth, saddled , ridden , stopping, turning , able to p/u feet , they should do as they stated. IF they cannot, they should refund the money . Put the money where their brag is. to many rip off trainers. Always some excuse, horse is dumb , horse is mean , blah blah blah. What it means is that they cannot do as they state. Glad you you have your guy working out . I still have a draft mix that wont accept the bit. Dont know what the 'trainer' did to him , we gave up and got a hackamore .
and by stopping and turning.. not on a high level, but actually stopping when asked to stop , and turning when ask for a turn, not a dime turns , and does not even have to be a smooth transition, just a turn, able to trot when asked, and able to canter when asked and there should be some leads in there, not perfect everytime , but there.
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post #95 of 139 Old 09-30-2013, 07:40 PM Thread Starter
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yup, that's about the sum of it stevenson. Things are moving along with Atlas now for sure, but I didn't really have any doubt that it would. Like I said, I've started colts before... just thought I'd save myself the time and pay someone else to do it. What really happened is that I paid someone to accomplish nothing and ended up doing the work myself anyway! But in the end the pack trip helped BIG time.

Rode Atlas tonight for the first time :) He was wonderful, COMPLETELY calm about everything. I only got on/off a few times, turned a few circles and walked a length of the arena before calling it quits. To be honest I do still expect him to have a blowup or two (especially after the rodeo on day 6 of the trip for no apparent reason.... by that point we'd started packing the eggs on him because he was being SO good and was very careful not to bash the boxes into trees. Eggs didn't make it to 8 seconds). Tomorrow I'm going to get someone out in front of him on a steady old horse and go for a bit more of a tour.

So, yes, things are coming along now. I've learned a valuable lesson about getting references and checking in on the training progress often. It'll be a LONG time before I use a trainer again though. I wish I could post a poor review of this chick somewhere. But ah well :)
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post #96 of 139 Old 10-08-2013, 02:04 PM
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I sympathise, I've been there myself:(

I sent one gelding to a younger unknown trainer, in under 60 days he was trail safe and it cost me not even $1000.

His half brother I sent to a well known recommended trainer who completely screwed him up, he was returned to me(after a bit of a em discussion)un rideable, with girth galls and saddle sores after just under 60 days, cost me $1800 for a train wreck, 6 months to heal up and the following year I sent him to another trainer who did a great job in a short time as I couldn't afford much:(

It's a bit of a lottery with trainers I'm afraid.

Glad your boy is getting better:)
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post #97 of 139 Old 10-11-2013, 12:33 PM
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I once sent a horse to a trainer, who in my opinion,didn't do a **** thing except leave her in a stall covered with flies,dirty and with no water. I doubt he even put one ride on her. And he was highly recommended.
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post #98 of 139 Old 10-11-2013, 02:54 PM
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SC...I'm too old anymore but started/problem horses for 55 yrs for other people and feel you got a raw deal on the training and didnt expect too much but you learned a valuable lesson on trainers. Looks like you have him on the right track now that you are working him yourself. Some time and lot of wet saddle blankets you'll have a good one.
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post #99 of 139 Old 10-11-2013, 10:00 PM
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So just to make everyone feel better, here I go.

I bought a 4 year old gelding last fall,( Nov), was told he was ready to go, has had someone on him and that was it.....perfect just the way I like them. So due to we didn't have the infrastructure quite in place and trying to finish fencing sent him back to the barn we bought him from.( he went there in June) I get the bright idea to have 30 days put on him, that was actually my birthday present. It felt pretty spendy but thought well worth it.

These people have pretty much ignored any contact from my husband and myself during this entire time, tried asking questions just wouldn't get a response. So finally mid Sept my DH get a hold of them, he will be home around Oct 1, ready to go. During some back and forth communication it comes out that the trainer feels that this horse needs months of ground work and he wouldn't recommend that I ride him..........they will send him home for me to work with this winter (??) and they will take him back in the spring.

I'm not into this for a lot, paid 1000 for the horse and sent him to them in June with 1000, as of last night we told the people had they been up front where the horse is, we would have never bought and their comment was we owe 650 in board..

I would understand if I sent this horse to them history unknown, this horse was born on their property and had never left the farm until he came to our place, poor horse tried to give him a chance, just haven't won the lottery yet.
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post #100 of 139 Old 10-12-2013, 08:19 AM
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You got ******ed. Put in what ever term you like.

If you do not know what kind of job a trainer does for sure, you need to go check on the horse and watch a training session at least once a week. Tell the trainer up front that you want to do just that. It they are not OK with that, hunt for a different trainer. Any qualified trainer will not mind and will welcome you coming and watching them once a week.

I would also arrange in advance for the trainer to let you ride the horse a couple of times at the end of the training time so that you can get the horse to do what the trainer has taught the horse. When I was training for the public, I always urged owners to do this and included it in the training fee. I wanted people to be happy with their horse and to know what their horse had learned and explain what they needed to do next to keep the training going in the right direction.

Keep in mind that no trainer wants you telling them what to do and they do not want someone hovering over them asking 1000 questions and killing their time. But if they mind you standing back out of the way and watching them ride / handle their horse, something is wrong. A few questions at the end of a session should be welcome.
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