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post #41 of 139 Old 07-09-2013, 07:18 AM
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Sounds like you got overcharged. Sure this horse might take more time, but that trainer probably only took 5-10 days out of that month to work with him and charged you like she handled him daily. No wonder he didn't get very far.
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post #42 of 139 Old 07-09-2013, 09:02 AM
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Sounds like you got overcharged. Sure this horse might take more time, but that trainer probably only took 5-10 days out of that month to work with him and charged you like she handled him daily. No wonder he didn't get very far.
In my area, a trainer that didn't have a horse working fairly well under saddle in that amount of time would not stay in business. Be it right or wrong, people expect results.

When I first sent my horse out to a trainer, she admitted that she didn't work with her for the first two weeks. She kept her two weeks longer and didn't even charge me board for that time. After 30 days of training, I could saddle, mount, and ride the horse. I rode her for a while and then sent her back for another 30 days. If I felt like I could spend the money right now, I'd send her out one more time for some polish work. If I had spent money for 60 days of training, and the horse had not been ridden, I believe that I would try to stop payment on my check.
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post #43 of 139 Old 07-09-2013, 09:25 AM
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Please don't pick on me, and if you do, do it in a nice way :) I'm just so bothered by this. I'm working a job right now that does NOT make much money (kids, don't follow your dreams if it means you'll be broke forever! Haha) and man... I need a bigger horse trailer, and a saddle to fit my mare... What $1300 could have done! But maybe my expectations were too high??
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I nice new saddle is just what you need for a horse that you can't ride. If money were an issue you should spend more time working your horse so it wouldn't take some one so long to finish it.
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post #44 of 139 Old 07-09-2013, 09:30 AM
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That was my biggest mistake. Unfortunately the trainer was a total of 7 hour drive from me so I only got up there a couple times. She kept reassuring me so I kept giving her the benefit of the doubt.
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post #45 of 139 Old 07-09-2013, 09:32 AM
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I suppose it's just a difference in experiences and knowledge/ability. I agree with Cherie and CowChick, what you listed wouldn't be considered "unrealistic" in my barn. It doesn't take 6 months to get a horse that can comfortably w/t/c under saddle and be sane enough to ride around on trails. They sure won't have any sort of finishing work on them and they may not be perfectly "collected", but there is a difference between trained and broke. To get a horse broke, you just teach them the basics and then ride them a few million miles until they are comfortable with whatever you are doing on their back. A trained horse is what you see in the reining or dressage arena. Most average riders don't need or want a horse like that...and couldn't ride it if they had one. They need a horse that they can walk out and catch, put a saddle on, and ride around without being bucked off, bolted with, kicked, run over, etc, etc, etc.

If there was no big issues that came up that she would have had to deal with like bucking, then I see no reason why she couldn't have had him going at 3 gaits and plow reining with a rider in 30 days. Of course, sometimes a particular temperament or an issue pops up that may bring progress to a screeching halt until that issue is resolved, but an average horse? No reason why it couldn't be decently started in 30 days.

Just because someone can get a lot done with a horse in a hurry, I don't know why folks always think that huge holes are being left in their training. Perhaps it's just because that particular person knows how to get the most out of a horse a short time. I often wonder if some people are just jealous that it takes them 6 months or a year to get the results that someone else can get in 30-45 days.
I completely agree with you Jen, as well as Cherie & CC. 30 days should be ample time to get a decent start on a horse without leaving holes. Finished/trained, not even remotely close but a solid foundation, most definitely. I always tell folks "I don't do 30 day miracles" but if it's in comparison to the results in this situation, maybe I should!

OP, I would be very disappointed with what you got for the time & money. Particularly since you were told horse would do a,b,& c in that time. It's folks like this 'trainer' that give good colt starters that can get the job done right in a respectable amount of time a bad rap.
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post #46 of 139 Old 07-09-2013, 09:52 AM Thread Starter
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I nice new saddle is just what you need for a horse that you can't ride. If money were an issue you should spend more time working your horse so it wouldn't take some one so long to finish it.
As stated, the saddle is needed for my MARE, not this gelding. If I'd had time to work him I never would have sent him out for training. I sent him out to be started, not finished.

Thanks for the replies now. Unfortunately, what's done is done and I've already paid :(
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post #47 of 139 Old 07-09-2013, 09:59 AM
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If it were me, I would contact the "trainer" and ask her to train the horse since she has already been paid to do so. If she will not make it good, I am afraid that I would make her name known. Other people deserve to be warned.

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post #48 of 139 Old 07-09-2013, 12:28 PM
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First I'll say sorry if I repeat what someone else already covered (not reading all the post right now).

I won't say what any individual person can or can't get done with a horse in a given period of time, because it's as much about the horse as it is the trainer. Some horse are amazingly easy to get started and others can be exceedingly trying.
Based soley on the information provided the trainer has apparently never worked with an older, unsocialized horse that may well be not too far removed from becoming almost feral.
The trainer should have checked the horse, not just go on what they were told before giving or agreeing to any expectations.
Even a horses that are use to people, stand to be haltered, easy to lead, groomable, etc..., don't always train the same or easily. E.g. My current two mares who are maternal first cousins and fraternal second cousins.
One day to get the older one to let me take her front and rear feet. Younger mare was one (long) day for the front and over 3 weeks for the rear.
And yet after 2 months the younger would lift her feet for me without me asking for them, while the older one has always made me ask.

Took 15 minutes to get the older one stand and be saddled the first time and she accepted me in the saddle the next day. Took a month to get the younger one stand and be saddled.

Yet while the older one is easier to start with everything it's the younger that is the first to great me spend more time near me.

Point is a trainer really needs to consider what the indidual horse is like. What they managed to do in a day with the last 6 horses might take a week with the 7th.

I would not be happy if I was told that I would have rideable horse in 6 weeks for $1300 and didn't have it, but I would suspected a trainer who told me the could deliver that with the horse the OP described

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post #49 of 139 Old 07-09-2013, 12:47 PM
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And people wonder why no one will train horses....

Sorry but especially after this thread, there is no way in heck I'd ever take on a horse for training, especially not starting one. Because God Forbid if you want to do any ground work with it.
Next colt starter I meet I'm going to hug, because they are the ones that have to put up with this unrealistic crap.
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post #50 of 139 Old 07-09-2013, 12:52 PM
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And people wonder why no one will train horses....

Sorry but especially after this thread, there is no way in heck I'd ever take on a horse for training, especially not starting one. Because God Forbid if you want to do any ground work with it.
Next colt starter I meet I'm going to hug, because they are the ones that have to put up with this unrealistic crap.
Agree.

And sometimes things don't always go as planned. These are individual horses, not robots. Sometimes they go good, sometimes they need more time.

I expect 30 days to start a horse - just to start a horse! But that's after I've spent 2 years doing groundwork.


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