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post #81 of 139 Old 07-24-2013, 04:43 PM Thread Starter
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MGTS, I'm glad to hear that things worked out well for you!!

Atlas is doing alright but I still haven't gotten on him. I've bridled him a few times and although it's difficult (he started out headshy and still doesn't like having his ears handled), it CAN be done. The first time he acted like a baby who'd never had a bit in his mouth but he forgot about it after a while. I ground drove him the other day and I really strongly suspect that's the first work he's had done with a bit. Again, not a big deal because I have started colts, but certainly not to be expected after coming home from "training" in my mind *shrugs*

He also spooked and pulled away from me the other day while I was handling his feet after saddling and began a series of HUGE bucks which has definitely got me un-nerved. She said he didn't buck the entire time he was with her which may be true, but he sure bucked this day :s If I wasn't nervous of this horse then, I am now. That's the biggest problem - he scares me a bit.

I'm going to continue working him and see how things go. I'm not totally bonded to him so am not completely opposed to selling him but I'd like to try to get most of my money back out of him which will be impossible if I can't ride him haha. Ah well, we'll see how it goes :) What I'd love to do is send him to work for my dad packing in the mountains for 3 months but I'm 3000km from home now, ugh! I think that'd be the best thing in the world for him.
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post #82 of 139 Old 07-24-2013, 05:12 PM
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He probably didn't buck at the trainer's place because he most likely was in the barn eating feed rather than working.
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post #83 of 139 Old 07-24-2013, 06:47 PM
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Give him time, don't expect quick magic. Good training is never quick, in my experience at least. I had a similar story with my horse. I bought him on his 5th birthday, and he had last been handled on his first birthday when he was sent to his previous owner's and in between he sat in a pasture.

I used a trainer as a mentor, but participated in much of the training as the body. Trainer's brain, my body. We spent three months on ground work... THREE MONTHS before someone got on him. I was very upset that it took so long, but when I got on him for the first time, I was sitting on a horse that was 'broke'. He tensed up when I first got on, and was pretty nervous, but I already had turns, brakes, backing, and go.

While training can take a long long time, I think spending more time on the beginning stuff can really help a horse in the long run.

A horse with constant handling that trusts people may be able to do all of that within a month and a half. Our horses didn't have that start. If I were you I would find a trainer willing to start over from the ground, and do it slow and easy. A month and a half is far to short for a horse that came from the background both of ours did.

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post #84 of 139 Old 09-29-2013, 06:56 AM Thread Starter
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well here is my boy, just got finished an 11 day trip in the mountains. He who "never bucks" (I asked the trainer, may as well start saying the name now - Amy Moffitt - Me: "has he bucked?"... Her: "No!!! Never!! he just SCOOTS"... by the way I never did get a response to the angry email I sent her. Surprising since all the ones regarding money went through). Beyond the fact that he's bucked a few times undersaddle BEFORE the trip (post-training), he also dumped the pack 7 times on day one, 3 times day two, and once day 6 (been a while since I've seen a horse kick his heels so high and I've worked on the trail for several years!!!)

Anyway here he is around day 5 hauling logs back to camp for firewood. Plans to get on him in the next few days while I have a horse worthy guide around to dally me up to a good rope horse. Atlas DOES buck but he stops if you yell loud enough and distract him, which is a plus

Maybe a bit cowboy.... but that's okay. One day when we're at 4th level dressage with 6 months of longe-linining maybe we'll look back and laugh? won't he look good in a flower ringed dressage pen?

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argh i dont think that photo attached, sorry...
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If he successfully (even with a few bucking fits) carried a pack for 11 days, I believe you have a good start to a broke horse.

I couldn't see the pictures.

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here we go :)

and yeah I think so too. Packing 'em is still my favorite way to get them started.
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So glad to hear you guys are making headway!
Looks awesome!

How cool to work a horse like that, then train them to go into the dressage ring! What a hoot! I love it.
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post #90 of 139 Old 09-29-2013, 03:48 PM Thread Starter
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FlyGap, he's going to be a well rounded boy for sure! He's super bold and can actually jump (he's cleared my arena fence lol), and has a huge beautiful trot and gorgeous canter compared to any horse I've owned so far. The plan is to get into eventing someday :) He's been a challenge for sure and obviously there have been setbacks but this trip was the best thing in the world for him, he was a LOT different by the end of it.


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