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    03-28-2013, 10:18 PM
Originally Posted by franknbeans:

Sorry, but I find it interesting when you state what you would do running a training facility when you cannot even figure out what the trainer is teaching your daughter.

I'm talking about general business sense, humanity, and tact, not about the specifics of horse training.

Btw, specifics of horse training can be learned. I'm learning on this forum, reading books, attending workshops and clinics. I seek opinions. And, btw, the mere fact that I asked a question on a forum doesn't not at all mean that I can't figure out what my daughter's trainer is teaching her.
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    03-28-2013, 10:20 PM
That is true, but that website hasn't been updated for over a year. I'm not sure what she's actually doing
    03-28-2013, 10:24 PM
Originally Posted by wausuaw    

The statement seemed as though it was not directed toward the owner. Seems like it was a general statement to the people that were attacking him for it.
This is what I think as well, after reading a bunch of stuff. But I also think CA did a really poor job about making this distinction in his "statement." I keep putting the words "statement" in quotation marks, because it clarified nothing, other that he was pissed.

Good luck with your training there! Sounds exciting.
    03-28-2013, 10:27 PM
Originally Posted by Palomine    
And more than likely he threatened owner too, with being sued.
You might wanna be careful making statements like this..
    03-28-2013, 10:37 PM
After reading CA's blog post linked here, he was upped a notch in my book.

I think more trainers need to be more upfront and cut the bull****, maybe that would help this ridiculous Disney image people have about horses. Unfortunately the NH movement hasn't helped any, but at least CA doesn't attempt to "love" the horses into submission. I am NOT a CA follower, nor do I think he is the best trainer out there, but I will give him props for standing up. I agree if he really wanted to clear the issue immediately he could of fronted the cash for necropsy. And he tried to make good by giving her a horse and refunding the training monies. Screw her if a 14.1 horse isn't good enough.

I have had a horse die in my care and I have know of others that it happened to. I was lucky to have a owner that understand that livestock dies(another reason why I only horses for people I know). My friend was not so lucky and dealt with a similar issue the CA is dealing with.

Also want to add....
I have seen a few horses have heart attacks, they do twitch and spasm. Matter of fact seen one last weekend at a jr. Rodeo during the pole bending. They had to work the ground and fix some panels afterwards. But in good grass it is hard to tell, I have been in Northern CA for a few days visiting family, brought some horses and been tying them to the trailer in the pasture while saddling/unsaddling. You can barely tell the ground has been disturbed even after a couple of days. That includes some pawing trying to get to the green grass. So to say there was no struggle or if the horse had a heart attack and spasmed(sp) is hard to say depending on the ground/grass condition.
    03-28-2013, 10:40 PM
Thanks folks. Im sure there will be a post, for better or worse.

CA is not renowned for his professionalism... And yea, he seemed pissed. Probably was. In fact, I don't really think there is anything professional about him, ha. Could have PROBABLY gone about it a better way, but ya know. I can't say much, I cuss like a sailor and can be a bit brash, so just doesn't bother me so much.
    03-28-2013, 10:46 PM
Originally Posted by horselessmom    
It seems strange to me to judge one's horsemanship based on one's FB design. I don't even see her site as "fluff." It is artistic. Different perceptions, I guess.
I like how horseless moms posts are very professional while others seem more like personal attacks and immature.
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    03-28-2013, 11:07 PM
Originally Posted by churumbeque    
I like how horseless moms posts are very professional while others seem more like personal attacks and immature.
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I never claimed to be a professional.
    03-28-2013, 11:41 PM
Originally Posted by COWCHICK77    
I never claimed to be a professional.
there is a big difference between acting professional or being a professional. CA is a professional but he wasn't acting very professional .
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    03-29-2013, 12:15 AM
The man is not running for class president or anything that requires people to "like" him. He trains horses and instructors. I could care less how often he curses as long as he does what I hire him to do. Train my horse.
What he said or how he said it has no bearing on his guilt or professional ability.
The old adage success breeds contempt is true.
IMO the owner of the dead horse likes all this attention and sympathy she is receiving. Too busy enjoying her moment in the spotlight to worry about the cause of her horses death.
Blaming CA or questioning his motives or concerns is unrealistic and uncalled for. Shalom

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