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post #11 of 408 Old 03-28-2013, 09:40 AM
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Has RateMyHorsePro said anything yet? They are usually on top of these things....
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post #12 of 408 Old 03-28-2013, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by texasgal View Post
The only think I'm finding on the internet about this is the OP posting about it on other horse forums .....

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post #13 of 408 Old 03-28-2013, 09:51 AM
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To be honest, the owner sounds a little...odd...on her facebook page. There's a few things she posted that make me skeptical.

And you bet your ass if my horse died while in a trainer's care without any explanation I would be getting a necropsy done. 200 miles is not very far away in the grand scheme of things and I really can't imagine a necropsy costing thousands.

Something stinks about this whole thing and I don't think the stench is coming from the CA camp.

*disclaimer* I am not a CA follower, so my opinion is not coloured by some sense of loyalty to him.

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post #14 of 408 Old 03-28-2013, 09:54 AM
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Last time I got a necropsy done at the university it was $100. Getting the horse there ... that was the problem, I put it in the back of my pick up, covered it with a tarp and drove it there.

I would demand some answers.
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post #15 of 408 Old 03-28-2013, 09:55 AM
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I guess there is no doubt her horse died ..? But even SHE doesn't say anywhere (in what was copied here) that her horse was "killed" ...

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post #16 of 408 Old 03-28-2013, 10:25 AM
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sorry, but things happen. No sane trainer at clinton andersons level advertises killing horses, especially one in the nh catagory.

the owner sounds very uneducated.

My BO had a stallion, vet checked 100%, a mare came in for breeding, 2 days later he died in his stall. I saw him at 8pm the night before and he was found dead at 1am. no feed changes, nothing different at all and they had an autopy, which was inconslusive. thankfully the mare owner seemed understanding and was refunded, but many a person would have looked at that situation and blamed the BO. another example, BO took in a free filly off the track, she was a 'roarer'(diagnosed by the vet, that was the only problem he could find), with the intention of giving her some time off, then retraining her as a pleasure horse. she was put out to pasture, and a month later found dead, with no signs of struggle. things happen with horses.
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post #17 of 408 Old 03-28-2013, 11:28 AM
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It sounds like CA did all he could to rectify the situation. The horse dropped dead, he offered another horse. I think if the owner had wanted a necropsy done, regardless of cost, he might have given her the name and number of a vet and let her arrange it ON HER OWN DIME. It might have shown the problem or not, but then she could say that everything possible had been done to find the cause.

Two sides to every story and it doesn't sound like this is even a complete ONE side. Not a CA follower at all, so I have no dog in this fight. Horses are horses and they can and do find some of the most ingenious ways to die/kill themselves. For such tough, hardy beasts they really are amazingly delicate sometimes.

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post #18 of 408 Old 03-28-2013, 12:45 PM
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I've scoured the internet to find anything on this, and nothing.

Now, Clinton Anderson is quite a big trainer I would assume if this did happen a statement would have been made somewhere, something in the media, just something. Maybe they're hiding it? I just don't know what to believe here. The other posts aren't a problem, but they're not official. I also cannot believe the CA himself or any of his students or trainers would say horses die IN the training program because of him. I myself would not want to deal with a trainer who has killed horses, I don't think CA has though. I do think horses can die AT / IN training due to pre-exsisting conditions. These deaths just happen and aren't caused by anyone. I am not a part of the CA clan following at all just looking at both sides.

Why would the owner of said horse send their horse to a trainer who kills horses? That's another question I have here. From her alleged posts on FB she doesn't sound to horse savvy. Also, not feeding your horse before training? That's just wrong too.

Now, I do believe as others have said things happen. If it's all true and there were no signs of struggle, etc. It could have literally just happened...

All in all, for me at least. There's too much left unsaid. We don't know what really happened without a necropsy. We have a lot of one side and not the other.

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post #19 of 408 Old 03-28-2013, 12:55 PM
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Nobody said "kills horses" ... what was (apparently) said was "horses die" ...

If a worried fretful owner says to a trainer "My horse isn't going to die, right?"

Trainer might say "I can't guarantee that .. horses die."

Seems an odd conversation to have, but I think it's extremely unrealistic to think that ANY trainer that has handled thousands of horses isn't going to have one die -- of accident, injury, colic, whater -- at some time or another.

It happens.

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post #20 of 408 Old 03-28-2013, 12:56 PM
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Agree with those who think there's more to this than the owner is posting. I cannot imagine a trainer telling someone that "horses die in this program", to begin with. I know the owner is upset, but if the OP feels the horse's death was due to negligence, get off the internet and sue...otherwise at least refer to CA as "the trainer" rather than identifying him on open forums. CA seems like a stand up guy that tried to do the right thing in bad circumstances. I don't know what constitutes slander, but the OP might want to find out if she continues to post on various forums.
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