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        03-29-2013, 03:48 PM
      #211
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    Originally Posted by DraftyAiresMum    
    Taffy Clayton, if you look, Palomine posted in this thread after I asked the first time what kind of beef s/he has with CA and s/he didn't respond, but rather continued to bad-mouth CA (and anyone who likes his methods)...in fact, the bad-mouthing *got worse* after I asked.
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    I didn't see where you asked it.

    I don't have any beef other than I think he is a fool, thought that before this for that matter.

    And this just reinforced it.
         
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        03-29-2013, 03:56 PM
      #212
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    Originally Posted by busysmurf    
    For future reference, I've noticed the OP tends to find "shock" stories, post them, act as though she knows all the facts, and jump to conclusions without knowing all the info.

    Horse abuser in WI.
    Horses chased to death in Texas. August 27, 2012.

    Chicken Little anyone??
    Shock value?

    Sterling Rachwahl in WI has been sexually abusing horses, and has been imprisoned for killing them and managed to get out due to lawyer using "he is mentally ill" bit. And not sure if he is still in or not, as heard he was attempting to play the crazy card again.

    I suppose in your perfect world things like this don't happen? Nice.

    And horses chased in Texas? How do you figure that is shock value. I posted that because I thought responsible horse owners might want to keep closer eye on their horses, as there have also been quite a few cases of horses being shot, and either wounded or killed outright.

    I'd rather be given a heads up as to what is going on with people's horses in differing states, so that I can assess my horses safety, and determine if there are things I can do to keep them safer, but I guess you aren't like that?

    Don't read my threads then.

    Won't bother me a bit.
         
        03-29-2013, 03:57 PM
      #213
    Trained
    But why do you think he's a fool? I'm honestly curious.

    Also, just because you think he's a fool doesn't mean you need to go around bad-mouthing him and those who use his methods. That's just uncalled for.
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        03-29-2013, 04:02 PM
      #214
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    Originally Posted by wyominggrandma    
    Funny how there is no answer from Palomine as to why she seems to hate CA so much. Her comments are typical of the "feeding frenzy" I wrote about.
    There was no answer because we had farriers at barn, and I had to be there. Didn't know I had to clear that with you?
         
        03-29-2013, 04:03 PM
      #215
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    Originally Posted by DraftyAiresMum    
    Exactly.
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    I was at the barn, we had farriers there. Again, I didn't know it was necessary to clear that with her or you?
         
        03-29-2013, 04:04 PM
      #216
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    Originally Posted by tiffanyodonnell    
    Well said, Drafty!
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    Exactly is well said?

    And didn't know it was necessary to okay having to be at barn with the farriers today with you either.
         
        03-29-2013, 04:07 PM
      #217
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    Palomine,

    You don't HAVE to answer anyones questions. You are entitled to your own opinion and you are allowed to post subjects of interest to you. If at any time you feel you are being ganged up on or harrassed please use the report post feature.

    All folks posting are welcome to post opinions, thoughts, questions, etc. But respect is key to all involved.

    Do not bandwagon or popcorn.

    Mod rant over.
         
        03-29-2013, 04:17 PM
      #218
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    I don't think highly of the vast majority of the clinicians.

    Why?

    Because I haven't seen anyone that I thought came out of one of their clinics that had any sense. PP, CA , JL or whomever.

    Lots of gimmicks, lots of cute parlor tricks, lots of things to buy. But too many seem to come out with nothing in terms of horse sense.

    Are there people who have benefited? Probably. Have I met any? No.

    The things that I see their devotees doing are unsafe, unsound, and downright dangerous in many cases.

    In what world, is there a practical use for teaching a horse to jump up on platform? I could maybe see this if people still hauled their horse in the back of pickup, (well, some do still but not usually seen now) and you had no earth ramp to walk it up. Then it might have practical use.

    But other than that? Nope.

    Same with running around playing games with horse. No practical use.

    I grew up around good horsemen. That knew what they were doing and were safe, honest and knew horses. Their advice was advice you could rely on, and that you could use. It was sound advice from their many years of experience with horses.

    These people have made a killing out of people who many times, have little real experience with horses, and who will fall for anything, and pay dearly for it too.

    They are snake oil salesmen. Nothing more, nothing less.
         
        03-29-2013, 04:22 PM
      #219
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Palomine    
    Shock value?

    Sterling Rachwahl in WI has been sexually abusing horses, and has been imprisoned for killing them and managed to get out due to lawyer using "he is mentally ill" bit. And not sure if he is still in or not, as heard he was attempting to play the crazy card again.

    I suppose in your perfect world things like this don't happen? Nice.

    And horses chased in Texas? How do you figure that is shock value. I posted that because I thought responsible horse owners might want to keep closer eye on their horses, as there have also been quite a few cases of horses being shot, and either wounded or killed outright.

    I'd rather be given a heads up as to what is going on with people's horses in differing states, so that I can assess my horses safety, and determine if there are things I can do to keep them safer, but I guess you aren't like that?

    Don't read my threads then.

    Won't bother me a bit.
    "This POS for lack of better term, has been sexually abusing horses and ponies for decades now, and keeps getting out of jail/institutions.

    How is this possible, when he has left a trail of dead and dying horses behind him.

    What is wrong with our system of justice.

    Google his name to see how twisted this pervert is, and how the state of Wisconsin has failed horse owners.

    He trolls CL looking for free horses too.

    I don't know if he is still locked up, but judging on past times, I doubt it."


    No, I don't live in a perfect world, farthest from it. BUT, the stories you post are called "shock" stories. They are meant to "shock" the reader.

    WI didn't do anything to fail horse owners, they did what they were allowed by the law & budget available to them. Is it s**tty it happened , h#lls yeah, am I upset I'm so close, YES! BUT you don't have all the facts, so unless you are able to present ALL the facts your posts are to present "shock" stories.

    You have a lot to learn about how media (tv, radio, electronic) works. The more "shocking" the story = the more publicity. And it's people like you who promote the one sided stories, that ends up hurting a lot of innocent people.

    Do you have any idea how innaccurrate most media is?? And I don't mean you know because you read it somewhere, I mean have you seen in person first hand how media twists stories to make them more shocking???

    Because I tell you what, if you have you sure as H*LL wouldn't be posting one sided "news" the way you do.

    In regards to this particular post, I don't care for CA methods, I don't care if he never trains another horse or trains them all. But the fact that this whole thing has been so one sided, pisses me off. NOW, had you posted both sides of the story, fine.

    The phrase GUILTY until proven innocent comes to mind.
         
        03-29-2013, 04:30 PM
      #220
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    Practical use .... hmmmmm.

    ~ thinking about the last wp class I watched.
         

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