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post #281 of 408 Old 03-30-2013, 03:40 PM
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Where did I say the owner is a random person? I was referring to the point where it was pointed out he requested the owner not bring guests....

I've never met him, know zero about his training/methods/if he's a prat or a saint. I am not a CA devotee who thinks the sun rises and sets out of his backside. What I do know, from working in yards in Europe and NA is that I can see his point in some cases. His yard is not a public riding school full of 20yo ponies. If his people skills arent up to speed? So be it, I've yet to meet a trainer who's main priority was makin small talk to owners.... their main focus tends to be "talking" to the four legged sort put in front of them.

I've already seen that you don't like him... fair enough. I have yet to meet a Parelli horse who wasn't a prat... but I don't come on here to push the fact that I don't like Parelli because I know other people are entitled to their own beliefs and if it works for them who am I to judge?
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post #282 of 408 Old 03-30-2013, 03:41 PM
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Looking at the Signature Horse video, perhaps some money spent on RIDING lessons might be appropriate. I've been known to defend a chair seat, but this isn't quite what I have in mind


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post #283 of 408 Old 03-30-2013, 03:50 PM
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Looking at the Signature Horse video, perhaps some money spent on RIDING lessons might be appropriate. I've been known to defend a chair seat, but this isn't quite what I have in mind


BSMS....don't sell yourself short...you have it all over both the owner and CA himself in this vid!
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post #284 of 408 Old 03-30-2013, 03:51 PM
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I think everyone is getting too worked up over this whole "boot camp" thing.

First, the lady whose horse died knew what she was getting into, as the contract clearly states everything. That being said, she CHOSE to send her horse there. She paid the money (and got it refunded after the death of her horse). Her money. Not yours. Not your parents'. So why do any of you care what CA charges for the "boot camp" and what is or isn't done in said "boot camp"? It has absolutely nothing to do with the matter at hand, which was originally the death of the horse and then morphed into CA's response.

Second, obviously some people believe that CA's Signature horses are worth $25K or he wouldn't be able to market or sell them. If he can get people to buy those horses for that much, more power to him. There's always people out there with more money than sense. Again, what does it have to do with you that you get so up in arms over it?

I get that you guys don't like CA. That's your perogative. But give the guy a break. Obviously people like his methods, and that's their perogative. Him charging as much as he does and acting the way he does, doesn't affect you in any way shape or form...so let it go. At this point you're beating a dead horse (no pun intended) and it's just getting old.
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Looking at the Signature Horse video, perhaps some money spent on RIDING lessons might be appropriate. I've been known to defend a chair seat, but this isn't quite what I have in mind



OK....and notice where both of their hands are; the woman's hands-one up to the chin, the other grasping the rein. CA....both hands back in his gut....never mind the terrible out of balance position, forward leg and ineffectual seat.
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I think everyone is getting too worked up over this whole "boot camp" thing.

First, the lady whose horse died knew what she was getting into, as the contract clearly states everything. That being said, she CHOSE to send her horse there. She paid the money (and got it refunded after the death of her horse). Her money. Not yours. Not your parents'. So why do any of you care what CA charges for the "boot camp" and what is or isn't done in said "boot camp"? It has absolutely nothing to do with the matter at hand, which was originally the death of the horse and then morphed into CA's response.

Second, obviously some people believe that CA's Signature horses are worth $25K or he wouldn't be able to market or sell them. If he can get people to buy those horses for that much, more power to him. There's always people out there with more money than sense. Again, what does it have to do with you that you get so up in arms over it?

I get that you guys don't like CA. That's your perogative. But give the guy a break. Obviously people like his methods, and that's their perogative. Him charging as much as he does and acting the way he does, doesn't affect you in any way shape or form...so let it go. At this point you're beating a dead horse (no pun intended) and it's just getting old.
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Why should I give CA a break? Ye reap what you sow. And he gets $25K from starry-eyed followers you are buying into his celebrity and a piece of HIM.
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I think I've come to the stage where i'm going to eye roll to myself and bow out of the conversation. To each their own and all that :)

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Why should I give CA a break? Ye reap what you sow. And he gets $25K from starry-eyed followers you are buying into his celebrity and a piece of HIM.
Does it directly affect you in any way? Not likely. Can you choose to just shake your head at the lunacy of other people and go on about your life? Absolutely. But for some reason, you can't let it go.

When I said "give the guy a break," I meant more in the form of "It isn't affecting you, so stop harping over it."

I honestly don't understand why everyone is getting their panties all in a bunch over all this.
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Does it directly affect you in any way? Not likely. Can you choose to just shake your head at the lunacy of other people and go on about your life? Absolutely. But for some reason, you can't let it go.

When I said "give the guy a break," I meant more in the form of "It isn't affecting you, so stop harping over it."

I honestly don't understand why everyone is getting their panties all in a bunch over all this.
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My last word on this...and just as you have been a part of this whole thread...so have I. Why do I care? Because it involves the horse industry as a whole.....an industry I have been a part of for 51 years. I'm not involved personally, but does that really matter? It does to me, because the horse industry gets a bad rap with scandal all the time....from race horses breaking down on world wide TV during TC time, from nefarious dirtbags offing expensive H/J horses for insurance money (and I worked for one of them many years ago), for vids of Big Lick trainers torturing horses, TV news showing horses being rescued from hoarders who have left them languish to die from starvation while they are getting 3 square meals a day....and so on and so on. So ya, I'm upset but you need not worry about it. You don't see the big picture....
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I don't see where anyone is getting upset, Funny you are using the same analogy as CA. For once, in a long while, on this forum, there is a normal conversation, without people throwing insults and snarks to each other.

I ask the same of you, what does it mater what people think of CA to you?
Does it affect you personally? If someone hated my favorite trainer, even that would not concern me, that is the trainers problem, not mine.
I am sure CA has enough PR people to handle this.
Like any public figure their are those that like, and those that don't, Obama, Tom Cruse, The Gov of your state, the Queen of England to name a few.

I find it quite interesting.
I couldn't pick CA out of a crowd of three, I couldn't tell you anything about him before yesterday. After this thread dies down, I probably won't think about him again.

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