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post #301 of 408 Old 03-31-2013, 07:30 PM
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Cerebral aneurysms can be identified in autopsies / necropsies.
Oh heck yeah, they sure can!!! I think my professor enjoyed showing us pictures of those, and every other fun modes of death!!!!

Either way, as has been said the OWNER DECLINED A NECROPSY.
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post #302 of 408 Old 03-31-2013, 10:51 PM
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this needs to be the last of this. This needs closed. This could end up a court case and slander . It is the Owners responsibility when a horse dies to order a necropsy , unless the owner in advance has given written instructions to a Vet clinic in the area authorizing Vet care etc , and accepting all related fees.
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post #303 of 408 Old 03-31-2013, 10:53 PM
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This thread has been going in circles since it was started.

I agree with the above
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post #304 of 408 Old 04-01-2013, 12:04 AM
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Agree with the above. But imo life happens. Live life, you never know when things might go wrong. We don't get to decide when we die, so just enjoy your life to the fullest everyday. The only thing certain in life is death.

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post #305 of 408 Old 04-01-2013, 12:16 AM
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Horses dieee?! Sounds a little rough.. See why I don't trust them high paid yuppie trainers? They killin horses-- knowingly!

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post #306 of 408 Old 04-01-2013, 03:58 AM
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I called my friend who took her horse to Josh Lyons, down in TN, I asked her if Lyons had a similar policy as CA, as to no availability to her horse. She said no, on the contrary, she was encouraged to come down and take some lessons while her horse was there. And as for picking up or dropping the horse off at the ranch, there were no restrictions what so ever.

I can see restrictions to the general public, of course, but restricted access of an owner, never heard of it before. At the very most there could be a call before you arrive policy, and you won't get a private guided tour, but you can see your horse.
I would think the issue here is that the horses in this program are dangerous and the heavy handed training they need is not going to be a pretty sight. We create the problem and then expect someone else to fix it without having to do something ugly. I can understand why a trainer would not want people to see this type of training for fear that ALL of their training methods would come under scrutiny. Crap - look at what's being said about the guy just for being on TV. He's on TV so that must mean he can't train worth a darn
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post #307 of 408 Old 04-01-2013, 05:21 AM
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horse die in training

what the heck do thay do there.
Training a horse and makeing it suffer like that for 1 id never send a horse to any one or a barn or a training program like that.
I iron out my own horses my horse use to buck and he was 4 and boy did he he got a few stings on a schooling wip and I sent him foward and he bucked the other day he was happy to be out on the trail.
His tail was from my barn owner she was laughing so muck going round in a circle.
I would ask what the hell of a program did thay put that horse through.
And why.
Whats the reason to drive a horse so hard into the dirt as to kill it.
To me there is no sence or purpous for a training like that if thay say your beloved horse is dead because of it.
Your horse mite die in this program what type of advatisement is that.
Well from a horse owner I am quite shocked and I feel for your horse and im sad for your horse.
I would want my horse back not burred on a ranch that killed him I could not live with that.

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post #308 of 408 Old 04-01-2013, 06:48 AM
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Toto and Michael-read the thread and get a clue. There is NO evidence that the training or trainer had anything to do with the death of this horse. The CAUSE IS UNKNOWN. Horses can die anywhere, just like people, who die in their beds even! Geesh.
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post #309 of 408 Old 04-01-2013, 07:35 AM
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I got to page 21 and the talk became repetitious. This says it all (from the OP)

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I need professionals to ride through his huge powerful bucking and get him over the trauma of having people being injured by it. He doesn't trust anyone on his back anymore because they all keep falling off. (That includes me!)
If a horse bucks you off, he/she has just been taught, "If I buck, the rider goes sailing." Some horses learn this the first time they do it. It is NOT traumatic to the horse.. horses will buck for fun (even out in the pasture with no one on them.. just playing) and horses will buck because of discomfort and horses will buck as an evasion.

I see CA took down his post though I liked it. One of the issues with this world is everyone would like to be presented with a polite statement of fact.

Quite honestly, I think a little anger and a little telling where the bear crapped in the buckwheat is appropriate sometimes. It was appropriate in this case.

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post #310 of 408 Old 04-01-2013, 08:14 AM
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horse death blog.

I got logged out.
Ok I have read all the strings that other people have ritten ok I jumped the gun on this one.
Ok may be I should read before I judge ok I had a quick snippet that's why I wrote that string.
The truth could have been solved via an autopsey on the horse.
Ok I have not read the blog or brosure on the trainer or his establishment.
The owner of the horse was wroung to cut its hay and feed dew to it going into training that was stupid as a horse needs more in training.
Ok the trainer could have presented him self in a more profesinal mannor.
The trainer went out of his way to reimburse the owner.
People who need to send there horses to trainers make there own problems and dump them on others and hope other people iron and rangle them out.
As to horses and humans well we all die all the biomachanics are all the same like every thing ealse that walks crawls and breathes air its a life span or nature that creates imperfections within the make up of the body which are ticking time bombs ready to go off.
I think the trainer should monitor the horses in his charge and keep a regular eye on them eather on cctv or rueteen checks by his staff.
Also look in to the training methods applyed to the horses under his care
I think that's best pratice for his buissness to keep tabs on things so he is ready for a situation like this one as to find out why.
The horse in person is a loss and both partys hopefully have come to an amicable agreement on the situation.
If the owner did not want an autoposey its her loss to get to the bottom of it and she should drop it.
Also face book I would not give it the time of day.
I have seen things happen on livery barns that are an eye opener and the blame festers out and the horses in person suffer or one did die that was a foal.
When you see things happen it a real eye opener.
And as to this one it will remain a mistory and that is that.
going back to horses 25000 for a horse that a bit much but it was a nice offer from him and a training program for an other.
Or was it 2500 I can't rember.
But on a lighter note for that price does the horse cooks keep house and go shoping to the mall for you as well.
Like I said I should read befor I wright and check out other peopls strings and reserch.
Many thanks for reading.
Mine £2500
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