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        04-02-2013, 05:40 PM
      #361
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by oh vair oh    
    It was the owner's fault for letting her horse get this dangerous to begin with.

    A dangerous horse is only worth the price the meat buyers will pay - friesian or not.

    At least he died trying to be saved. Though "last ditch efforts" hardly work out.
    Using your logic...BOTH are to blame. The owner for getting this horse so fat and full of fuel without the knowledge and training on the other end to burn off the fuel and put some training into the horse. AND to CA for taking on this horse that was so dangerous, out of shape, and basically unbroke to begin with...trying to cram it all in...in the span of 6 short weeks. Both of them should be ashamed.
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        04-02-2013, 06:27 PM
      #362
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by GotaDunQH    
    Using your logic...BOTH are to blame. The owner for getting this horse so fat and full of fuel without the knowledge and training on the other end to burn off the fuel and put some training into the horse. AND to CA for taking on this horse that was so dangerous, out of shape, and basically unbroke to begin with...trying to cram it all in...in the span of 6 short weeks. Both of them should be ashamed.
    You're right, it's a lose-lose situation. It should serve as a warning to others to be responsible for your horses. Personally I would never leave my horse in the care of a trainer full-time (without myself being able to learn with the horse). Even if CA did succeed, 100% sure the horse would be back to normal within a month. The horse may gain knowledge, but it was the rider's lack of knowledge that caused it, and will cause it again.
         
        04-02-2013, 07:09 PM
      #363
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
    I wonder where the idea that the horse was tied out to graze started, by confession of CA staff, the owner, or the owner's friend. I can't see why there would need or desire to tie a horse out to graze at CA. This doesn't make sense. Something's fishy here.
    That is a very good point. I was told months ago by someone who went to his ranch for a training program that it was set up as a "paddock paradise"> Each horse or two having their own small space. She was raving about it because she wanted to set up her dream farm the exact same way. So it would not be necessary to tie a horse out to graze and leave it, when there are dozens of paddocks at their disposal. Unless they left him tied to "fight it out". In which case, that turned into a fatal error on their part.
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        04-02-2013, 07:40 PM
      #364
    Green Broke
    I must have missed something I never read anywhere that the horse was dangerous. It was bolting and scared, not rearing, striking, kicking or attacking people.
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        04-02-2013, 07:44 PM
      #365
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by churumbeque    
    I must have missed something I never read anywhere that the horse was dangerous. It was bolting and scared, not rearing, striking, kicking or attacking people.
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    A spooking and bolting horse, I also believed that the owner said it bucked too, is a dangerous horse.

    If anything if the horse got like that with the owner, if anything it would get worse.
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        04-02-2013, 08:07 PM
      #366
    Yearling
    "His major issue is bolting and bucking. I need professionals to ride through his huge powerful bucking and get him over the trauma of having people being injured by it. He doesn't trust anyone on his back anymore because they all keep falling off."

    Any horse that has the idea that it can get people off if it tries hard enough is a very dangerous animal.
         
        04-02-2013, 08:27 PM
      #367
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by oh vair oh    

    Any horse that has the idea that it can get people off if it tries hard enough is a very dangerous animal.
    I always called this a horse that bucks.
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        04-02-2013, 08:43 PM
      #368
    Green Broke
    For you all that are crying foul, for any person assuming CA did anything wrong,
    Let's call the Kettle black here. I have read all kinds of trash talk here against the horse owner. Insinuations that the horse was dangerous, that she spoiled it fat and rotten. That she was entirely to blame for the dead horse. You assume that you know everything about the owner because of a flowery eulagy she wrote for her horse on FB.
    Go to horse memorials on HF and lets trash talk them too.
    Because the owner has a different phylosophy of horse ownership, she deserves this. If only people that believed what you do should own a horse, there would be very few owners indeed.
    I am ashamed of this thread, the way you all are attacking the owner of this horse. This thread never was slanderous against CA, but you all sure have crucified the owner.
         
        04-02-2013, 08:47 PM
      #369
    Yearling
    You guys ever try to deliberately UNSELL someone something?

    My BO had this happen the other day....lady comes out looking for an English barn or something, and not just an English barn, but like a SERIOUS HARDCORE BARN, kept saying things that made my barn owner think that she'd be really High Maintenance and a complete PITA....my BO actively tried to NOT sell her there at that point. Politely, of course.

    Honestly, I know that's the way they make money...but you guys ever consider the possibility that the owner could have been enough of a PITA that the CA people tried to drive her away? "You know...your horse CAN die during training "*crosses fingers* *please, please don't say you want to come!!!!!!"*

    Just to throw a wrench in this. Also, I know I can't be the only potential employer that has tried to scare employees away, just in case they were there for a lazy position.
         
        04-02-2013, 08:51 PM
      #370
    Green Broke
    OH PLEASE^^^^
    That is about as bad as the poster that said the owner knew something was the matter with her horse and sent it to CA, in the hopes that something would happen!
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