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    03-28-2013, 07:37 PM
All I care to add is, atta boy Clinton.
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    03-28-2013, 07:39 PM
I do see where you're coming from Horseless -- that IS a better statement and much more professional. It definitley would save him some reputation points for the language and being so abrasive.

For him though, the statement he gave is himself. He tells it like it is and always has, I doubt him talking like that will cause much of a stir. He is human and reacted the way he did for obvious reasons. While the cussing probably could have been left out, that's how I expected him to respond after hearing / seeing him in person, and hearing from members of his "club."
    03-28-2013, 07:41 PM
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Horselessmom, your statement sounds like it came from a professional.
Short, to the point, no mincing words, no BS, no games.
    03-28-2013, 07:44 PM
Originally Posted by Chevaux    
Nice revisions, horselessmom - you would do well as a professional speech writer.
    03-28-2013, 08:04 PM
Originally Posted by horselessmom    
I would've liked a statement like this:

Iíd like to start by once again offering my heartfelt condolences to the owner of the horse. Iíve lost animals myself, and I know what kind of emotional havoc a death of oneís partner can cause. Animals do die, but even if we are all aware of this simple fact, it is never an easy thing.

Since an autopsy was declined by the owner, we wonít know why the horse died, but we believe it had something to do with either a brain aneurism or a heart attack because it died extremely quickly and there was no struggling involved.

We sent the owner flowers and we refunded all of the owner's money. I offered the owner a Signature Horse free of charge, and the opportunity to send another horse to the ranch for the six-week program and we'd train it free of charge. I believe Iíve done everything I could under these unfortunate circumstances.

We do everything in our power to take great care of animals on our ranch. Iím saddened by the multitude of posts that insinuate otherwise.

Life if fragile and precious. It is only too easy to get overly involved in an internet drama, but instead, go out and spend time with your horses, enjoy your time with them, and try, just like your horse, to live in the moment and appreciate the beauty of it.


But I might be in the minority here.
Send it to him and maybe you could become his publicist. I agree with you.
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    03-28-2013, 08:12 PM
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Downunder Horsemanship | Statement from Clinton regarding Academy Horse incident

THIS is what he wrote concerning this and it did happen. He admits it, you can go to his site and read it yourself.

Statement from Clinton regarding Academy Horse incident

by Clinton Anderson 28. March 2013 11:27
First of all, this is nobody's business other than mine and the horse's owner. If people would pay more attention to their own lives, their own horses and their own problems, the world would be a much better place. But there are too many looky-lous and sticky beaks that want to stick their nose in and stir up trouble when there's no trouble to be stirred up.

#1 People need to get a grip on themselves. Animals die. Humans die. It's called life. In fact, there's this bumper sticker that was invented that says "s*** happens." People put it on the back of their bumpers because that's what happens in life. It's called s
*** and it happens. Sometimes it's somebody's fault, but a lot of times it's nobody's fault. Again, it's referred to as s*** happens.

#2 It's unfortunate that the horse died. Reality is we don't know how he died because the owner didn't want to get an autopsy. Horses die at my ranch. Yes, it's called life. We have 60 horses on the ranch, we have dogs and we even have cats. In fact, we had a cat fight in the barn last week, and one of them died. Shocking, yes. It's called life. Animals die. Yes, even Clinton Anderson's animals die. It's called life. I know this is shocking to know that as good as I am and as popular as I am and as famous as I am, my animals don't live forever either. Holy s
*** , I must be human. For any moron that's getting his panties in a wad because a horse died at Clinton Anderson's ranch, get a life.

#3 It's unfortunate that the owner had to go and start this whole fire because I'm the one that has to go put it out. I've apologized to the owner; it's not my fault the horse died. It's not the owner's fault the horse died either. We don't know how it died. We believe it had something to do with either a brain aneurism or a heart attack because it died extremely quickly and there was no struggling involved. Reality is it was the owner's choice not to get an autopsy - she didn't want to get one.

I apologized to the owner; in fact, I've spoken with her on three separate occasions about this subject. We sent the owner flowers and we refunded all of the owner's money. I did everything I possibly could. In fact, I even offered the owner a Signature Horse free of charge. I went above and beyond to try to help her through the grieving process. A Signature Horse, with all its training, is worth $25,000. She declined the Signature Horse because she said the horse was too small. I had a horse picked out for her that was 14.1 hands high, and she didn't feel like a horse 14.1 hands high was worth having even though it was free and is worth $25,000. Just for the record, the lady is 5'9" and I'm 5'11", Mindy is 14.1. I rode Mindy in front of millions of people for 15 years and never had one email or comment that said I looked too big on Mindy. Just to set the record straight. But she didn't want the Signature Horse - no problem whatsoever. Since she didn't want the Signature Horse, I offered her the opportunity to send another horse to the ranch for the six-week program and we'd train it free of charge. Again, I went above and beyond to take care of a grieving customer.

I bent over backwards to take care of her needs, and now I'm having to fix this kind of bulls
*** and I'm tired of it. So reality is if you think your horse is going to live forever, you're an idiot. Do we do everything in our power to take care of animals on the ranch? Yes, we do. The reality is every once in a while it keeps coming back to that bumper sticker "s*** happens." So people, get a life, get out of business that doesn't involve you and start focusing on your horsemanship and your own lives. When people start doing that, they'll have a lot more success with their horses, a lot more fun and a lot less drama. If it sounds like I'm irritated and I'm cranky about this, I am. All we've done is taken an unfortunate situation and turned it into circus and absolute mess. It didn't have to go this direction. This is my statement and this whole subject is done after this.

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    03-28-2013, 08:13 PM
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I read the first three pages and then the statement from CA. I'm with him, it happens. It sucks, but it happens and to be honest, I have a feeling if the owner thought he was at fault, truly though it, then they would have tried to prove it. But instead they just showed their crazy. That's my 2 cents...
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    03-28-2013, 08:14 PM
The horse owner is a complete moron. I thought the military stopped using horses in anything but ceremonial roles over 50 years ago; why the hell would you need to send one to a “book camp”? (yes; I am being sarcastic I realise its not a real military boot camp). The whole concept is idiotic. The moron owner should have been sent to a horse riding “boot camp” to learn not to be a moron, spoil their horse, and turn it into an arrogant tool that needs to get “over the trauma of having people injured... [by his bucking]” MORON. Now excuse me while I go and vomit. Trauma from bucking people off? What a moron.

All the same, If I was in CA's position, with a lot to loose from bad press, even if on FB, especially from what I suspect to be a complete moron horse owner, I would have forked out the money for the vet to figure out a cause of death, surely it would have been small change for someone pulling in the money he would be.

Just a note on hobbling the horse's face to a foot. I have never seen it in Australia, but the Bedouin I lived with, and others across the middle east, typically hobble their horses head to their feet. If they hobble them to the front they will take their lead-rope and tie it around a knee then tie that to the other knee, and leave a little room for the horse to lift its head, so they don’t tie their face down tight to their legs. If its to the back leg they typically tie the lead rope around a back pastern and leave the horse enough slack to move about without too much restriction. Whether or not CA was doing that? Who knows.
    03-28-2013, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Muppetgirl    
So.....this horse was tied out low to graze? Does that mean it was staked in the ground and given a length of rope to hang itself on? That's my understanding????

Old school method would be horse had head tied to front leg.

    03-28-2013, 08:18 PM
Agree with much of what you say, Anrew, but not getting the necropsy was NOT a matter of $$. Again-it was the owners choice. CA had no say in the matter. Not his horse=not his decision.

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