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post #1 of 27 Old 01-20-2014, 01:57 AM Thread Starter
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Just a thought...

So I do not qualify as Horse trainer what so ever. (; I'm still new to things and not trying to play it up like I know my stuff but I have been pondering something lately...

It seems that a lot of the 'trainers' I've talked to or even met just did not interest me. At first, I was all about listening to them and thought you know, "they're trainers. They know how to do it.". Though, as I went through some training with my mare, I realized just how odd the world of trainers is.

Every person I talked to had completely different advice. Always the same "you've been doing it THAT way? No. This is the right way."
For my mare, a lot of this worked. But when I bought my Appendix, my world was turned upside down. I've had to take him from 'follow the leader' trail riding, to all-around proficient.

It seemed like literally every piece of advice I got just would not work with him. I talked to many trainers and horse people and little to none of it was effective. That's when I started using my brain and finding things that specifically work for him. I had to watch his every move, listen to what he was saying very closely then I began to find the unique things that worked for him.

So now I find myself asking the professionals why they think their way is correct...that perhaps it's not the training method that is correct, but the end result.

I'm not trying to take a hit at any trainers on here...but I'd like to know peoples thoughts on this as well.

"Each horse is so unique...with their own personality, and their own likes and dislikes...I just don't see how any proper 'trainer' could think one method is THE method."
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post #2 of 27 Old 01-20-2014, 04:23 AM
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The thing is, there isn't just one way to train a horse. If there were, there wouldn't be so many trainers! You just have to look at some of the big names and their different methods to realise that one method does not fit all. Some horses are more intellectual and need more stimulation. Some are more stubborn and need more encouragement or force. Some have a bad past and need more sensitivity.

Every professional is 'right'. There are a million ways to train a horse, not all of them kind, and not all of them will work on every single horse. But that doesn't make them wrong.
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post #3 of 27 Old 01-21-2014, 01:34 PM
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A good trainer, whether they are working with horses or with riders or both, will always keep an open mind. Yes, they will work in a way that has been taught to them or they have learned for themselves, but, anyone who has had many horses in for training will know that what generally works for most horses, does not work for all horses.
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post #4 of 27 Old 01-25-2014, 08:36 AM
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Even though most people aren't officially professional trainers, every single time a horse owner works with their horse they are training that horse-good or bad. Horse people are incredibly opinionated but I believe that no one should ever stop learning so, pick up a few good tidbits from the advice you are given and thrown out the bad.
I avoid the people/trainers who are stuck in a rut and are unable to learn or change. I call them "one trick ponies".
To me, horses are like children-every single one of them is born with a distinct personality and instead of fighting against the traits we don't like, we need to find a way to work through and around them!
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Even though most people aren't officially professional trainers, every single time a horse owner works with their horse they are training that horse-good or bad. Horse people are incredibly opinionated but I believe that no one should ever stop learning so, pick up a few good tidbits from the advice you are given and thrown out the bad.
I avoid the people/trainers who are stuck in a rut and are unable to learn or change. I call them "one trick ponies".
To me, horses are like children-every single one of them is born with a distinct personality and instead of fighting against the traits we don't like, we need to find a way to work through and around them!
Hmmmm....I don't agree with this bolded statement 100%. Both of my horses are trained and finished, so when I ride...I'm not training as they already are trained. I just push the right buttons and they perform.
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post #6 of 27 Old 01-27-2014, 06:36 PM
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Yeah, I've noticed that too. Ask 10 trainers and you get 10 different answers. Once you establish a solid base line of knowledge as a rider, it's easier to weed out the ones that will lead you down the wrong path. Of course it all depends on what discipline you are working with too.

For example, in Dressage, if a trainer tells me "let's put a martingale on her and force her head into the desired position" - I know to run far, far away.
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You're just becoming more discerning as a horsewoman. That's a good thing.
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Hmmmm....I don't agree with this bolded statement 100%. Both of my horses are trained and finished, so when I ride...I'm not training as they already are trained. I just push the right buttons and they perform.
True, BUT, if you were pushing the wrong "buttons" consistently, I think you would be UNtraining the horse. You are reinforcing the proper training, so you ARE training it.

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^I agree with this.

Aanndd... pretty much everything that everyone has said above. There are different methods, and many of them are successful. Horses, in lots of ways, are just like kids. You can't take a room full of children and know that they are going to learn the same way, at the same pace. Some will learn faster than others; some will plant their feet and downright refuse to learn. Some will be so adverse to it, that they need to get a different 'teacher'. I like that there are many options in trainers, then you can always find what's good for you and your horse.

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post #10 of 27 Old 01-28-2014, 11:46 AM
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True, BUT, if you were pushing the wrong "buttons" consistently, I think you would be UNtraining the horse. You are reinforcing the proper training, so you ARE training it.

Nancy
You would be training the PERSON, not the horse...the horse already knows, the person doesn't. Take my horse for instance...you could push the wrong buttons....but there is no way you are untraining him.
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