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        03-04-2014, 03:34 PM
      #11
    Green Broke
    I heard him recall his backstory on a recent show. He says that his father beat him and he has many healed bones that had been broken. According to Monty, he dedicates his life to healing horses and their owners. You can believe this or not, but if you've had animals for many years, you KNOW that you cannot fake it.
    I admire him.
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        03-05-2014, 01:43 PM
      #12
    Foal
    I didn't even know 'ol Monty was still alive.
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        03-05-2014, 03:26 PM
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    Weanling
    Yep, hes still around.
         
        03-05-2014, 08:56 PM
      #14
    Started
    I had heard he was embroiled in a lawsuit a few years ago. I saw him at an equine event probably four or so years ago. He spent a lot of time talking about how great he was and how he had fostered a lot of kids. Fostering kids is great but I am not sitting in an arena to be sold on the American foster system. That said, an equine event is not the time nor place to discuss how many kids you have fostered. He also talked a lot about God, I don't care about your faith or lack of it. I was not there for a sermon and he spent so much time talking about the other two topics that the horse and what he was doing with the horse got lost. It was more a show to see how great he was than to learn how to work with a horse. I left after about 1/2 an hour.

    I think he gets credit for being the "first" to publicly work in what is commonly called "natural horsemanship" and he gets credit as a blow hard. Lots of people have been using "natural horsemanship" for years but only in the last 15 years have people started to coin a term and sell that methodology. Lots of good hands are "natural horsemanship" people but they don't kick up a fuss they are just good with a horse.
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        03-05-2014, 11:27 PM
      #15
    Yearling
    Danny67 - that cracked me up
         
        03-15-2014, 04:18 PM
      #16
    Foal
    I was first suspicious of Monty Roberts when I read his book. It didn't set right with me; he claimed to have done just too many things, from "inventing" the slant nose trailer, to working with James Dean, to "training the Queens horses", to all his film experience; LOTS of bravado. On top of that his childhood, the experiences with his father, and most of all, his sitting in the desert for days watching wild horses at 15 years of age. At the very least, his claims seemed greatly exaggerated.

    I did attend one of his clinics, and he did seem to have a way with horses, so that was good.

    THEN, I read the book "Horse Whispers and Lies" written by his family members. That book made total sense to me. For me, it only confirmed what I already suspected; more than exaggeration, but out and out lies.

    Even his family says he can work with horses, and much of what he learned came from his Father. But one thing I don't like is a liar; on ANY level. Therefore, for me, I have NO USE for Monty Roberts.
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        03-24-2014, 02:10 PM
      #17
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    I first met MR when he came to the UK and worked with some army remounts for the Queen.
    I wasn't that impressed because although these horses had not been ridden they were very well handled.
    MR returned and I provided two horses for him. One was a three year old (coming 4) that had never been handled. All I did with her was to teach her to lead. The other was a remedial. I knew how I would deal with her but, wanted to see what MR would handle it.

    It all went well though the remedial buried his rider! What did impress me was another remedial he dealt with and the way the horse turned around was very impressive.
    At this time there were no tall stories.

    I bought his biography and like many, was extremely suspicious of what was written. Most puzzling was how he returned home with these horses!
    I them read his Aunts book and was not surprised. At the same time I met a woman who rode with the Roberts and she told me that his father was a kind and gentle man who took no nonsense but was always fair. She could not believe him using chains top beat his son.

    The more often MR returned to the UK the wilder his stories got. The last demonstration I went to was mostly for problem sorting. There was a big warm blood that was very nappy (barn sour) he worked the horse doing join up and then his owner, a slip of a girl got on and the horse gave a wonderful demonstration of rearing.
    A blinder was put on the horse so it could only see a few feet in front of it and it proceeded to go around the pen.

    Now, having seen the horse close up prior to him going into the round pen, first thing I noticed was his tiny boxy feet. Loose in the pen the horse was lame on both fronts - no wonder it didn't want to jump which was when it started to nap.
    I pointed out the fact it was unsound and was soundly told it wasn't but, there were two equine vets present and both backed me up.

    My parting words were "Instead of talking to horses, perhaps you should listen to them!"
    The owners had the horse X-rayed and it was quite advanced with navicular and pedal osteitis so was put down.
         
        03-25-2014, 09:11 AM
      #18
    Showing
    Altho I have great distaste for those who "tell-all" to the public. Abuse all to often goes on behind closed doors, yet the public personae remains pristine. Kids and teens seem to forget that they can make life very difficult for parents and seem to think rules don't apply to them. If MR's father was abusive, which I'm not condoning, it was part of an era and a kid wasn't going to rule the household. Kids, later as adults, have forgotten has to how much grief and aggravation they've caused, they are the innocents.
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