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post #51 of 107 Old 02-28-2012, 01:54 AM
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He's trying to teach horses Latin and thinks riding is cruel.

That tells me all I need to know about Nucking Futs Nevzorov.

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post #52 of 107 Old 02-28-2012, 02:32 AM
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Lots of different people on the world. I think some of that stuff is pretty impressive. I don't think I will be buying his book though.
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I don't know much about his method. I also heard that he's against riding horses recently. for me it's to strange but when he rode horses I admired him. He's a great rider and it was impressive how determined in his method he was. I mean if he don't like when people use anything on horses heads he really rides without it and has amazing results. I also understand that he is so much against sport. There it's too much cruelty in equestrian sport.
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post #54 of 107 Old 02-28-2012, 04:26 PM
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It's not really sport that is dangerous... It is the riders and trainers (individual people). Just like human sports, horse sports are ment for the strongest/fastest to win.

Although I do agree that the very high levels of sports can be a bit rough, such as the highest levels of showJumping and Cross Country can be dangerous it is the rider/trainer/owner who has to understand and 'live with the regrets' if you will, about how things can/could/would/should/have happened.
Like and example the owner/rider/trainer has to have the knowledge to know what levels the horse should be tested at. You wouldn't put a 1 star eventer horse on a 3 star eventer course. You would know that the horse could (and probably would) get hurt and it wouldn't make a good enough time to even be considered a placing.

You can only bring out the horses best talents, not force a particular sport on them that they are not good at, just to please the human.

Horses are scared of two things... Things that move and things that don't.
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I'm sure he probably does have some good basic ideas in there somewhere....if you are willing to take the time and you are able to sort through all the hypocrisy and ranty-ness.

For example, riding of any kind is strictly taboo for being "too hard on the horse's body", but asking a horse to do things like this over and over and over and over again isn't hard on him?.......
Lydia Nevzorova's Photography
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If you JUST look at these 2 photos you'd think it was Orca training. lol
I think I'd rather watch Tommy Turvey.
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While I agree with his ideology on not using bit or any form of pain or discomfort inflicting tack I do not agree with his way of going about the whole thing.

First of all he is a showman and makes a lot of money - that is bloody obvious to anyone

Second instead of developing his system (which is derived from french Haute Ecole system) he just made it into a ridiculous religious cult with strict rules and regulations where people are not allowed to share or help others

Thirdly he dishes dirt on every single system and somehow presents himself as a superior Horseman

Fourthly he is a Hypocrite - in the past he was a stuntman for movies - he used very cruel ways of training horses- sharp spurs, whips and harsh bits. When he became "a Haute Ecole trainer" he rode horses all the time and made them do tricks and movements that are completely unnatural (with him on horses back). Now he says that that all that is wrong - contradicting everything he did. As I said - total hypocrite!

And finally - I just don't like him! His face, his image and his way of talking - and his horses to me on all the pictures look very tense- eyes white open, veins all swelled up - they look uneasy and scared!

I would never follow his system - to me he is not right!
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post #57 of 107 Old 02-01-2013, 08:34 AM
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Some of you might be interested in this site -

Academia Artivm Didacticvm Eqviorvm in Liberti

It is a "branch" that glided away from Nevzorovism to prevent hiding information and to promote natural horsekeeping, in contrast of Nevzorovs style of locking the horses away from each other and letting to interact with humans only during training, so that they are more "interested" in it. I've been very into exploring this kind of thinking lately and it has given me much to think about my own choices regarding horses.
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Some of you might be interested in this site -

Academia Artivm Didacticvm Eqviorvm in Liberti

It is a "branch" that glided away from Nevzorovism to prevent hiding information and to promote natural horsekeeping, in contrast of Nevzorovs style of locking the horses away from each other and letting to interact with humans only during training, so that they are more "interested" in it. I've been very into exploring this kind of thinking lately and it has given me much to think about my own choices regarding horses.
Oh thank you will take a look at it for sure!
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You're welcome! I just love that all of their articles and videos are free (and really thought-provoking!), and everyone can join their forum freely, if they agree with the Academias' principles and don't start any fights there. :) As for myself, I've been long since convinced, that being 24/7 out in the pastures (with a shelter provided, of course) and being fed according to their natural needs is the best we can give to our horses - and it's so very interesting to see how natural horsekeeping can be applied to training too, making horsemanship more a meditation, than a sport. :)

It doesn't suit everybodys' needs, of course, but it is an inspiration.
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You're welcome! I just love that all of their articles and videos are free (and really thought-provoking!), and everyone can join their forum freely, if they agree with the Academias' principles and don't start any fights there. :) As for myself, I've been long since convinced, that being 24/7 out in the pastures (with a shelter provided, of course) and being fed according to their natural needs is the best we can give to our horses - and it's so very interesting to see how natural horsekeeping can be applied to training too, making horsemanship more a meditation, than a sport. :)

It doesn't suit everybodys' needs, of course, but it is an inspiration.
Totally agree with you!
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