Nevzorov

I think he does amazing things with horses.

Have to check it out! Sounds interesting, thanks for the link.

But what about this one, any views/experiences? I'm slightly intrigued (especially the forum & videos, which are free also, seem good on a first glance) but have yet to check it out properly. Thought about buying the book, though. Looks so good: http://www.dressuurinvrijheid.nl/afb/vdboekpolka.jpg

Natural Dressage: classical dressage at liberty

I too think he does amazing things with his horses. However there is some black magic under that hat of his if he isn't bringing student in and not teaching them his ways, etc. plus all of his hores biting him, etc. tells me that there is something going on.....

Also, I'm kinda shocked that nobody said that Nevzirov (however you say that name) keeps his horses in individual isolation, so I have been told..

I don't personally have a problem with that at all, if it's not all a lie. If someone's good at something & others want to throw money at him, good for him I say. It's when ideals go out the window for the sake of the money that I have a problem with - that's hypocritical... which I think has happened with one or few of the 'natural horsemanship' gurus.

Hypocrisy is believing something but doing the opposite anyway. It is not evolving different beliefs & changing your behaviour accordingly. He is obviously a total fanatic & perhaps just a teensy bit irrational, may be other appropriate...naming words for him but I don't think what you tell about him is hypocritical in the least, so long as he's not still performing the behaviour he now professes he doesn't believe in - we all live & learn & evolve. Surely there are a lot of things everyone of us now believe that are different to when we were younger?? I used to ride trackwork at the local racecourse for eg. It's not hypocritical or contradictory that it would now be against my ethics to work the backside at trackside, so to speak.

But then...
Saranda, I too will check out that link thanks - that's one thing I didn't know about Nevzorov that I DO find absolutely hipocritical, that if he's truly in it for the horse he wouldn't be keeping them cooped up & separated!

Forgot to say thanks & will check out your links Kayhmk too. But is there an English version of that Polka/Spanish walk one, or could you give a basic explanation of how they go about teaching this?

With all do respect I really don't need a lesson in Vocabulary. I fluently speak 3 languages which is probably more than what you can So I would appreciate it if you don't talk to me like I am not cultured

Nevzorov is a hypocrite because in his ideology he says that horses should be exploited for human entertainment however he does exactly that to make money, fame and build his little cult of people who follow him religiously.

Most world famous traditional and NH trainers also make money because this is their career that is open and clear to anyone who is interested and wants to learn and not some crazy ideology kept behind closed doors where horses are kept in total isolation, trained in secret and God forbid something to get out to the world. Doesn't this really make you wonder what is going on there? What kind of training these horses are subjected to? I don't trust someone who hides his training from the world - to me this means that there is something to hide - something not good!

How I work with a horse has evolved and more and more it is about connecting with the spirit of the horse. It's almost like a fix and I have to be with the horse and it causes me to live in the moment.This may be what Mr. N has gone thro. He is likely working with stallions. I'm wondering about the claim of isolation and to how somone interprets that. Individual box stalls, not being turned out together (can't do that with stallions). There was no validation of the word "isolation".Mr. N may chose not to teach because he may not have the skills to do so. When my son tried to teach me about using a computer, he was all over the map in his enthusiam and racing ahead. He knew his stuff but couldn't teach it. With horses, how does one explain a feel or how to get that feel. You can't, it's something you just have to search for and you'll know when you have it.

I personally think Nevzorov is looney tunes, but unless you've been privy to what he does, stating unequivocally that you KNOW he does this or that holds no validity.

I will have to research him more closely.Some of the things people are claiming he does is not good at all.I was basing my opinion after watching him perform .

He works with mares too.
I used to be friends with someone who initially introduced me to NH training but later she became Nevzorov's follower and because I didn't want to "convert" she broke off our friendship plus later when I tried to reason with her and ask to share training tips she told me that she works with "horses soul" and will not say anything else. She distant herself from everyone. Her horse does impressive trick and stunts but to me unnatural and unnecessary.