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View Poll Results: Parelli or Clinton Anderson
Parelli 9 12.68%
Clinton Anderson 42 59.15%
other (if so comment who) 20 28.17%
Voters: 71. You may not vote on this poll

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    02-21-2012, 05:22 PM
  #51
Foal
I vote other.

My pick is me, cause I am the best of all and I don't do it for the money. If you don't think so just ask me I'll tell you.
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    02-22-2012, 06:50 AM
  #52
Foal
Unhappy parelli gone bad

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Originally Posted by DraftyAiresMum    
I've had to fix a Parelli-trained horse, so of course, I'm not a huge fan of his. My old gelding was trained using Parelli (not very well-executed Parelli, mind you, but still Parelli) and he was more of a handful as a trained six-year-old than my unhandled two-year-old stud colt when I bought him. Retrained my old gelding literally from the ground up using common sense and a little bit of CA and ended up with an eight-year-old that we used as a bareback lesson horse in a french link snaffle (his old owners said he couldn't be ridden in anything but a twisted wire snaffle, direct reined , with spurs, and his head tied down to his chest).

I have used a lot of CA's methods on my coming 3yo and they've worked really well.
Hi DraftyAiresMum,

I hope you won't take any offence in this,but have you ever tried Parelli actually? I am not a fanatic follower of a one man show,but I bought my horse 5 weeks ago and have had incredible results with Parelli and loads of patience and common sense as well. I ride him bareback in a halter now and before I had him he's never been ridden in a halter before. I feel very sorry for your poor gelding and am glad you retrained him so well obviously, but I can't believe that the previous owner had any idea what she was doing and she certainly did NOT use Parelli...what you describe seems like the absolute opposite of Parelli or any approach a good natural horse trainer would ever use( or anyone with a bit of horse sense,poor gelding )
     
    02-22-2012, 10:28 AM
  #53
Trained
I can ride a horse in a halter on the first ride but it doesn't mean the horse is well broke. I don't think 99% of Parrelli followers do it right.
     
    02-22-2012, 08:49 PM
  #54
Trained
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Originally Posted by desert winds    
Hi DraftyAiresMum,

I hope you won't take any offence in this,but have you ever tried Parelli actually? I am not a fanatic follower of a one man show,but I bought my horse 5 weeks ago and have had incredible results with Parelli and loads of patience and common sense as well. I ride him bareback in a halter now and before I had him he's never been ridden in a halter before. I feel very sorry for your poor gelding and am glad you retrained him so well obviously, but I can't believe that the previous owner had any idea what she was doing and she certainly did NOT use Parelli...what you describe seems like the absolute opposite of Parelli or any approach a good natural horse trainer would ever use( or anyone with a bit of horse sense,poor gelding )
Desert winds-I know you are new here.....and welcome. My guess is that you had success with the patience and common sense part-not the Parelli. GOod horsemanship is based on the patience and common sense-not a guy with a squirrel on his lip who thinks he is "savvy". I do believe you have misunderstood your results. We do not KNOW that the previous owner did not "use parelli"-after all, it is videos that are open to interpretation, there is none to see if you are doing it correctly, and common sense and patience are not "common". Perhaps the owner only went with the "Parelli" part because she watched the DVD's, had a stick, long lead and rope halter. JMHO.
     
    03-06-2012, 03:46 AM
  #55
Foal
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Originally Posted by attackships    
parelli seems like a good horseman, but I've seen some clips from his clinics and the big show production he puts on is a bit "much" for me personally.
Second this sentiment.

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I have never seen/read anything about clinton anderson so I can't compare. Although I do like clinton anderson's rope halters despite how dang expensive they are. I'll vote for him! ;p
I like CA's approach to horses (and if anybody wants to yell "BUT IT'S JUST COMMON SENSE STUFF!", look around you see much common sense in the people around you? ) and some of his methods, even if I do think his trademark logo rips off that of a Chevy Impala. (No, really think about it for a second.)

There are other trainers I like less than Parelli in a couple of cases, a great deal less but quite a few I like much more than Parelli. I certainly wouldn't spend any money on his commercial output and if I hear the word "horsenality" again I'm going to throw a small fit.
     
    03-10-2012, 11:30 PM
  #56
Weanling
I voted C. Anderson but I like John Lyons too.
     
    03-10-2012, 11:36 PM
  #57
Yearling
All these guys are pitch men even if they're good horsemen (and imo that last part varies). Personally, I tend to be more inclined to follow teachers who have horses that look like I'd want mine to look. I want to know how they got them that way.
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    03-11-2012, 01:12 PM
  #58
Foal
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Originally Posted by franknbeans    
Desert winds-I know you are new here.....and welcome. My guess is that you had success with the patience and common sense part-not the Parelli. GOod horsemanship is based on the patience and common sense-not a guy with a squirrel on his lip who thinks he is "savvy". I do believe you have misunderstood your results. We do not KNOW that the previous owner did not "use parelli"-after all, it is videos that are open to interpretation, there is none to see if you are doing it correctly, and common sense and patience are not "common". Perhaps the owner only went with the "Parelli" part because she watched the DVD's, had a stick, long lead and rope halter. JMHO.
Why do you feel the need to diminish Desert winds opinion of training methods, just because it is different from your own? And seriously insulting a trainer's appearance as a reason for discounting his methods, how mature is that?
     
    03-13-2012, 11:08 AM
  #59
Foal
I think that in order to be a successful and fluent horseperson, that you need to realize that one person does not have all the answers, including ourselves. No one trainer is the same, and it has been said -- neither are the horses we work with. A method that is tried and true on one horse holds no guarantee on another... and as imperfect humans, we should realize that there is always room for error and improvement. When one starts thinking that they know it all, they have truly lost their footing and are common to hit the ground faster than he who is humbled by the experience. Don't be a trainer if you cannot read/judge/predict a horse by it's movements. They require someone with patience and a strong will, otherwise you will get either 'dead broke' horses or soured ones.

I know of a person in these parts who advertises themselves as a trainer and taken on some equine clients (a few rusty trail horses and some non-halter trained geldings). When we went to see them, I asked the trainer to show me their 'methods'. Sure enough, there was a huge lack of communication (trainer to horse) and interpretation (horse to trainer). A bit frustrated, I walked up and caught him; touched him all over and walked away. The trainer was absolutely stunned, even when I pointed out the miscommunication. "He doesn't want to be 'bad' or not listen. You're just not effectively telling him what to do, nor praising him for doing it right, so he keeps guessing at what you want." Now, I'm nothing special, but I feel that you do have to focus and be tuned in to be successful with horses....
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    03-21-2012, 06:20 PM
  #60
Foal
Despite my username, I enjoy both CA and Parelli.

I use several of Andersons methods when training, and I also use his Handy stick. The carrot sticks that Parelli uses are too hard to juggle (having to switch sticks all the time). However, I do love both of them, and use both of their methods.
I also learned a bit from purchasing Larry Trocha videos, have dabbled a bit with John Lyons (didnt like his stuff too much, it never worked for me), and Monty Roberts is okay too.

Then again, my grandpa is the best horse person I have ever known, that man is magic on a horse. I use some of his things as well!

Each horse is an individual, and I firmly believe that you should use whichever method works best for the HORSE. I don't think a horseperson should limit themselves. Learn all you can, from everyone you can, and use what you need to. Just make sure that whatever you DO use, you do it the right way!!

Can't tell you how may people I have seen attempting Parelli methods on youtube...and I sit there and go..wow...you werent supposed to do that.

Sorry for writing a book, but I get lots of adversity from the fact that I am a woman training "cowboy" horses in Mississippi...add that on top of the fact that I do it in a way that most people don't know anything about...and I get alot of c***.
     

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