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        07-16-2013, 08:09 PM
      #11
    Trained
    I have to agree with tiny and palo, and especially with that first pic of him riding the horse in the two-rein...it may be the angle of the pic or riding down a hill, not sure, but he is riding horribly behind the motion of the horse. And that mule during the cowhorse (cowmule?????) needs to be looking at the cow not staring off at his arm waving/flapping in the breeze. And I know quite a few bareback riders that does not translate to riding a saddle horse. Some can and some can't! I think even at the NFR a few years ago, didn't a bareback rider fall off while doing his victory lap after winning the round?

    In another Parelli thread on here someone posted a video which clearly demonstrated that the riding was not all that great. As far as clinicians go there are far better give it the training or riding ability, in my opinion. And I will admit to not being a fan at all anyhow.
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        07-16-2013, 08:41 PM
      #12
    Banned
    I thought that was a cavisson to keep the horses mouth closed- That aint a bosal- is it?

    Pat is looking at the cow- agree he is riding like a music maestro but I think its because that mule don't neck rein and he's keeping the mule looking at the cow and turning him to it with out making the mule cut in short behind it and loosing the cow.

    I do see he's leaning a bit forward on the cutting horse but I don't think its bad posture he's just got a longer torso than he's got arms, lol.

    Not to justify.
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        07-16-2013, 08:56 PM
      #13
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    No your right, it came up as a small image on screen. But that's kinda weird- he has the bosalita underneath and it looks like a get down going to the left of him, but it's not tied around the neck(from what I can see) then ran through the bosalita back to him. And he doesn't have a set of reins like he would with a two-rein..... hmmm. Photo shopped?
    I also agree that he was too forward on the cutter you have to sit back or you get in their way(or fall off!).
    The mule, I can't tell what he is being ridden in from the picture, it's not clear enough for me. Yes, Pat's looking at the cow and not the mule which is good, but unfortunately the mule is distracted by the "maestro arm" as you put it..LOL
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        07-16-2013, 10:05 PM
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    Like I said, I was roasted for that comment. So, let's just not go there.

    Yeah, Pat rides pretty typical . It's the ol' slumped a bit with my legs braced into the stirrups look. Like many guys who have rodeod, he probably has a lot of stiffness in his knees and back.
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        07-16-2013, 10:15 PM
      #15
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    Originally Posted by COWCHICK77    
    No your right, it came up as a small image on screen. But that's kinda weird- he has the bosalita underneath and it looks like a get down going to the left of him, but it's not tied around the neck(from what I can see) then ran through the bosalita back to him. And he doesn't have a set of reins like he would with a two-rein..... hmmm. Photo shopped?
    I also agree that he was too forward on the cutter you have to sit back or you get in their way(or fall off!).
    The mule, I can't tell what he is being ridden in from the picture, it's not clear enough for me. Yes, Pat's looking at the cow and not the mule which is good, but unfortunately the mule is distracted by the "maestro arm" as you put it..LOL
    Per the bold. It sure looks like it to me, Really crappy job of it too...
         
        07-16-2013, 10:45 PM
      #16
    Yearling
    That was my point. He claims to be able to do things he's not good at. If he would have stayed on the ground, he would have been in his element.
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        07-16-2013, 10:52 PM
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    "Mules represent a greater training challenge than horses. A good horse trainer isn't automatically a good mule trainer. But the reverse is nearly always true: A good mule trainer makes a great horse trainer.
    Parelli is a case in point. His skill with horses is due in part to his early work with mules. In 1976, he helped start and was the first president of the American Mule Association, which still exists. In 1981, he stunned everyone at the NCHA Futurity by entering and nearly winning the event on a mule named Thumper. It resulted in not only a boost to his career but a NCHA rule change banning mules from future competitions. When Parelli was invited back the next year to give a demonstration on a mule, he performed the same reining pattern without a bridle."
    The photo in question in this thread is in fact Thumper. And I don't know how or why people think she's focused on his arm.... Because what I see is she's clearly not interested in the cow, is not looking at his arm either, but yet is fully listening to his cues
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        07-16-2013, 10:54 PM
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    Originally Posted by palogal    
    That was my point. He claims to be able to do things he's not good at. If he would have stayed on the ground, he would have been in his element.
    That's not what a trainer does though. At least not ones that teach people like he does. We do. But it's not to say we ride 'well', we just know how to stay safe in the saddle
         
        07-16-2013, 11:02 PM
      #19
    Yearling
    I admit he's not the train wreck Linda is in the saddle. But he's still not someone I would take lessons or clinics from.
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        07-17-2013, 12:20 AM
      #20
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    Nokotaheaven- very cool! I didnt know he had a part in the mule association.


    About his riding- I agree with what tinyliny says-- most big men I seen ride ride that way- I don't think its a posture problem he can help.


    Palogal-- I can post better pictures- I still don't see why he 'cant ride'?






    ^ looks good- my opinion.
         

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