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        03-06-2013, 07:24 PM
      #51
    Trained
    I absolutely do not mind being yelled at or insulted at all. If I deserve an insult than give me one. I'd much rather be told exactly what I am doing wrong than have some pansy who is worried about my feelings keep on letting me make an error.
         
        03-08-2013, 03:12 AM
      #52
    Yearling
    I give basic kids lessons. Most of my lesson girls are awesome. I have plenty of patience for them and have learned to explain things in different ways so that they understand. But I am very to the point, not harsh, just always try to keep their head in the game. I get really excited when they "get it" and try to encourage them to always try harder. One student though....oh man. She is a sweet girl, and could literally sit in the pasture brushing one horse for hours and hours on end. But, I am very snappy with her. Almost rude and yelling. The problem is, she has such bad ADD/ADHD that if I don't keep her focused at all times, I'm afraid she's going to go off into lala land and get hurt!! It's bad, like real bad. I feel like such a B***H every time I give her a lesson. 1 hour lesson, and usually by the time she's done grooming, saddling and lunging, she has about 5 minutes to ride. And that's WITH me barking "Hurry up!" every 2 minutes. Like I said, sweet girl, really loves horse...but can't stay on task for longer then 30 seconds.
         
        03-10-2013, 04:31 PM
      #53
    Trained
    Humiliation of the student should never be the instructor's goal. When a student is having difficulty perhaps it's because it wasn't explained in a way the student understands. Lack of introspect is a failure on the coach's part. I have taught a deaf, a fetal alcohol syndrome, one who could learn only one thing at a time and one ADHD. The only one I had advance notice of was the deaf gal. The others challenged my teaching skills and it wasn't for many months that I was told of their challenges.
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        03-13-2013, 01:44 PM
      #54
    Foal
    My riding instructor can be harsh, when things are going bad she will shout. But she's a really good teacher, she's the BO and only teaches the advanced lessons which in general are to teenagers and adults not children, I don't think she'd be great teaching kids, she might rip her hair out. The children are taught by the other two instructors who are lovely to them, call them nice names, joke with them etc. But even them instructors can be harsh to us older ones. One of them wasn't happy with my rising trot and stood there slapping (not too hard!) my legs on about muscle and stuff and she's smacked me with the whip before haha (this is all quite jokey though), I'm quite close with her so it doesn't bother me, and when we have a disagreement about something, I can joke with her and stuff. But I have seen her almost tearing her hair out and shrieking when she's mad, it doesn't bother me though, I prefer having a tough instructor, who will yell and tell it to you straight. However I have lessons with my younger sister (12 years old) and I know she doesn't like being yelled at and when the instructors have gotten mad she doesn't like it, she's more sensitive though, I'm not bothered.

    I think it depends on the student, if you don't mind being shouted at, fine. But I don't think shouty instructors should be like that with young kids because it might scare them and make riding less fun.
         
        03-13-2013, 07:13 PM
      #55
    Foal
    There are very few moments when you need to yell and scream at your students in my opinion. Trainers need to remember that they are coaches to their riding students. Encouragement and positive reinforcement go a long way, and there is nothing wrong with telling a student they are doing something wrong and quickly correct them to do the right thing. But there really aren't moments when you need to curse/scream/etc.

    "Yelling" might have to happen to have a trainers voice reach across the ring, especially in a dire situation... but in my opinion, that is completely different.
         
        03-14-2013, 01:17 AM
      #56
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by AlexS    
    I absolutely do not mind being yelled at or insulted at all. If I deserve an insult than give me one. I'd much rather be told exactly what I am doing wrong than have some pansy who is worried about my feelings keep on letting me make an error.
    Being a riding instructor is like any other job. It is about customer service. There may be some people like you, who do not mind being yelled at, but many people *do* mind and will avoid those trainers. Business lost.

    If I screamed at my patients how stupid they are for not taking their medications right, not following docs orders, and gererally doing the sometimes downright dangerous things they do, I would get fired, and my patients would not learn a thing. How would you feel as a patient if a doctor or nurse came into your room or home and started screaming insults at you regarding all the medical knowledge that you lack? It could be done, trust me....the average patient knows diddly about medications and disease process. But that would obviously be terribly wrong, right? Terrible customer service.

    Most people cannot learn when they are frightened....some can, most cannot.. I have a wonderful trainer. What makes a truly great trainer/instructor is one that gets along with the horses as well as the student, and my trainer does this.

    Everyone deserves to be treated with decency and respect. I don't care how hot shot of a trainer or fancy clinician you think you are. You are a person just like me, and we both deserve respect and good manners. If you feel the need to yell insults or have a sharp tone to get your point across, I will take my money elsewhere. That s*** does not fly with me.
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        03-14-2013, 01:43 AM
      #57
    Foal
    My trainers says things like "don't just sit up there" "work!" "ride!" "i know you can ride, act like it!" but those are just motivational, not insulting. I wouldn't put up with someone who was mean-spirited and it certainly wouldn't help my riding. I did go to one such instructor once and she made me so angry I wanted to leave within the first 10 minutes but I was too polite to do it. In retrospect I should have - there is no reason to treat someone like that. Of course I never returned after that. If you cannot teach someone without insulting them then perhaps teaching is not for you.
         

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