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    03-15-2013, 03:21 PM
  #31
Foal
I have to say that knowing that Stacy didn't encourage an interested 9 year old kid to talk to her really colored my opinion of her. That's a shame, really, that she didn't find a snippet of energy to encourage a kid, no matter how bad her day was. But I'm also speaking as a mom of a 10 year old kid. I would've told my kid not to expect anything, but I would've been taken aback by her reaction as described.

One of my kid's trainers was like that--low energy, seldom smiled, never volunteered a bit of information, though did answer questions. She was positive in lessons and didn't yell or anything like that. For a while we just accepted her for what she was--not a people's person. Everything was fine. Only after changing barns we realized how emotionally draining that trainer was. It is difficult to be with a person who struggles to communicate.

I read some of Stacy's blog some years ago, and I was also turned off by her grammatical errors and poor spelling. Not a big deal, really, but she doesn't seem to be a skilled communicator. And that's okay. There are plenty of trainers who are selling their brand more effectively, for better or for worse. There's choice.

I agree that the OP shouldn't have expected personal attention or to be friends with Stacy, but empathize with the OP.
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    03-15-2013, 03:41 PM
  #32
Yearling
I agree. It's pretty bad business not to try and engage your customer. To most people that would follow SW, horses are a hobby and most of those people have a very personal relationship with their horses and they are mostly pets. The horse is a luxury item and those people don't need horses. So, if you're offering a service that people truly do not need, you better do your best to market yourself and that service.


People that make a living with horses, don't use CA, PP, SW or any of them.

They use top notch trainers in their discipline and don't care if the trainer is personable or not, they expect the horse to make money and as long as that is accomplished, they could care less how personable the trainer is.

Point is...Stacey Westfall, Clinton Anderson and whoever else, are not necessary. They need to market themselves to appeal to their audience.
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    03-15-2013, 05:04 PM
  #33
Yearling
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Originally Posted by nrhareiner    

Now for PP. That man could not train he wa out of a paper bag. Take away all the showmanship he puts into his shows and that is what they are shows. Really watch what he is doing and whatch his horses. They are tricks nothing more nothing less. While they are fun to watch and I am sure for some fun to teach their horses. That is not training. He has tried several times to show and has yet to get it done.

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I largely disagree with this. I used his 7 games, and join up to bring a very shy, untrustinf, introverted horse out of her shell. She was soft and supple, and when I sold her, her owners went on to make it so anyone could ride her. I grew up with Parelli as my base. The lady who taught me trains her horses with the parelli methods, and they are calm and safe. I was ever so amazed with how supple her mare is.
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    03-15-2013, 06:12 PM
  #34
Yearling
OP...I'm sorry you felt put off by Stacy and that she didn't act they way you wanted her to. But she's not obliged to act the way YOU want her to. And she's not an NH trainer....she's a regular ole reining trainer.
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    03-15-2013, 06:33 PM
  #35
Yearling
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Originally Posted by KylieHuitema    
I largely disagree with this. I used his 7 games, and join up to bring a very shy, untrustinf, introverted horse out of her shell. She was soft and supple, and when I sold her, her owners went on to make it so anyone could ride her. I grew up with Parelli as my base. The lady who taught me trains her horses with the parelli methods, and they are calm and safe. I was ever so amazed with how supple her mare is.
Before you get buried on this one.... Most real horse people are not Parelli fans. I personally think he's great. I make A LOT Of money fixing horses owned by people that bought his ridiculous method.
     
    03-15-2013, 10:11 PM
  #36
Yearling
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Originally Posted by palogal    
Before you get buried on this one.... Most real horse people are not Parelli fans. I personally think he's great. I make A LOT Of money fixing horses owned by people that bought his ridiculous method.
Truer words have never been spoken. If you actually want to ride your horse (instead of playing mind-numbing games on the ground) and actually want to teach your horse body control and self-carriage, then look elsewhere. He nor his wife have a clue when it comes to training a horse under saddle. Me? I'd rather swing a leg over and ride then nag a horse into being my pal on the ground.
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    03-16-2013, 12:11 AM
  #37
Yearling
Although, I will say there is NOTHING funnier than Linda's impression of a Dressage rider. Completely bass ackwards.
     
    03-16-2013, 08:13 AM
  #38
Foal
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Originally Posted by horselessmom    
I have to say that knowing that Stacy didn't encourage an interested 9 year old kid to talk to her really colored my opinion of her. That's a shame, really, that she didn't find a snippet of energy to encourage a kid, no matter how bad her day was. But I'm also speaking as a mom of a 10 year old kid. I would've told my kid not to expect anything, but I would've been taken aback by her reaction as described.
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I don't know that we really have enough information to judge Stacy here, so far we just know that the OP asked for a picture and got a picture, it doesnt appear she asked questions or anything and Stacy just ignored her and walked away...I don't think we have enough information without being there or more details from the OP to say even what "her reaction" was.

I've never met Stacy Westfall and I probably never will but if I did I wouldnt expect much personal attention from her there is only one of her to go around.
     
    03-16-2013, 11:54 AM
  #39
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by KylieHuitema    
I'm just glad I didn't ever attend the clinics with her. Literally, I didn't see her smile once. I remember her watching reining patterns with her head rested on her hand with that look that she wasn't enjoying her job at all.
If I paid big bucks to ride in a clinic with a higher up trainer, I would probably not appreciate them standing around laughing it up the whole time. I would hope they were taking my time and riding seriously, and concentrating on what I was doing.
     
    03-16-2013, 12:07 PM
  #40
Banned
I read the first post.....I have worked for and somewhat personally know a bit time reining trainer here in Canada. Here is what I've gathered through being exposed to this persons life.

1. They are constantly being chased around by groupies at shows
2. They are constantly being asked for help
3. They have their own personal and professional goals to meet while dealing with everyone else
4. They are spread thin
5. Everyone wants a piece of them.....

I sometimes wonder when the last time someone just called them to say 'Hi, how are you?' Instead of 'my horse is doing this' or 'can you' or 'when will you' or 'how can I fix this'.......seriously it's a steady stream of demands. If I text this person and don't hear back for two weeks....I don't take it to heart, I understand.
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