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        03-16-2013, 12:39 PM
      #41
    Green Broke
    I just need to say, 8 or 9?? OMG, I have 9 and 10 yr old step daughters and I can tell you that they don't see things the way they are at all!! The things they interpret as truth??!! So, I guess what I am saying is that at 8-9 yrs old maybe you were seeing things differently than they were? And as far as letting it go, I am assuming it was years ago so, yes, you need to let it go. And was it at that time you bought these items?? You say you waited months for a reply?? I don't know, maybe its me but something just isn't right here.
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        03-16-2013, 12:42 PM
      #42
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by KylieHuitema    
    Well my reason for starting this thread was just to hear thoughts about Stacy Westfall, her training and my own experience. It's everyone elses choice on how to respond, like I said I was impressed by her bareback and bridleless which was flawless with Roxy.
    But you are not talking about her training, you are griping about getting warm and fuzzy time. Not training.

    OOPS, EDIT: I see wetrain covered this, sorry!
         
        03-16-2013, 01:01 PM
      #43
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nvr2many    
    But you are not talking about her training, you are griping about getting warm and fuzzy time. Not training.

    OOPS, EDIT: I see wetrain covered this, sorry!
    I also feel it bears pointing out that the OP called Stacy Westfall a fraud, apparently because she (the OP) didn't get said-"warm and fuzzy time" and because the products she bought weren't up to par (it could very well be that the individual products themselves were faulty, not the entire line of products). That doesn't say to me that she's gotten over it at all.

    FWIW, I like CA's methods. I've had to fix a spoiled Parelli horse, and there were a couple of people at my old barn who claimed to do Parelli, but basically just let their horses do whatever they wanted. I haven't watched anything of Stacy Westfall except her bridleless and bareback freestyle reining performance. She seems to know what she's about with a horse and I think I'd like to audit one of her clinics.
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        03-16-2013, 02:43 PM
      #44
    Trained
    I guess I choose good trainers by their interactions with horses, not people.

    People suck, I can talk to horses all day long, people make me want to hide under a blanket.

    I do not expect anyone to be any better at interaction than I am. Lol, the random cowboy who took over loading Ben for me on Sunday barely said 2 words to me, didn't say any more to Ben, but to watch his body (mmmm nice butt) sorry, body language as he worked with Ben, that was a whole communication there. No he wasn't trying to make a living, but I bet he could, that man is a great communicator, just not with people is all.
         
        03-16-2013, 02:46 PM
      #45
    Yearling
    Those big trainers are mostly marketing...so they need to be better with people IMO if they expect to sell their overpriced products. Clinton Anderson (another beautiful butt) better be talking pretty fast if he wants me to drop money on his products. Sales is about PR. Sounds to me like in this situation, SW did not have it.
         
        03-16-2013, 05:07 PM
      #46
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by Poneigh    
    I don't know that we really have enough information to judge Stacy here, so far we just know that the OP asked for a picture and got a picture, it doesnt appear she asked questions or anything and Stacy just ignored her and walked away...I don't think we have enough information without being there or more details from the OP to say even what "her reaction" was.

    I've never met Stacy Westfall and I probably never will but if I did I wouldnt expect much personal attention from her there is only one of her to go around.
    Good point. I thought about it a bit more. At 8 or 9 a kid could totally misinterpret the situation.

    I wonder where were the parents. I talk about these things with my kids, who are 8 and 10. We've attended various events with their "idols" and I always make sure they understand that their "idol" is unlikely to notice them or give them any individual attention. This way they are not disappointed, and if there's any personal interaction, then it is a pleasant surprise.

    On the other hand, if I was there with my 8 year old, and SW was standing "doing nothing", I would've helped my kid to communicate. "Hello there, this is my 8 year old, she is a fan, she has a question, do you have a minute?" And if, for example, I got a clear vibe from her that it wasn't a good time, I would've provided my kid with an explanation so that my kid isn't bitter for years.

    I'd also make sure that my kid had specific questions or comments, as not to waste SW's time.

    OP, where were your parents? What's their take on the situation?
         
        03-16-2013, 05:26 PM
      #47
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by palogal    
    Those big trainers are mostly marketing...so they need to be better with people IMO if they expect to sell their overpriced products. Clinton Anderson (another beautiful butt) better be talking pretty fast if he wants me to drop money on his products. Sales is about PR. Sounds to me like in this situation, SW did not have it.
    What the OP stated is not the Stacy I know.

    Next the end products she produces is all that is needed. She more then PP or even CA has proven that what she does works. She goes out and proves it. So what if she does not talk for an hour to every person who comes up to her.

    Lets put this in anouther way. Take your favorite singer. Now lets say you went to a concert. Would you expenct them to stand around and talk to every person who was there? If they did not. If they ran as fast as they could to the bus and drove away. Would that make you like that persons music any less?
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        03-16-2013, 06:30 PM
      #48
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KylieHuitema    
    and I was expecting to have a conversation with her, and was super nervous. First we went up and asked to take a picture with her and she said yep and we got that. And that whole experience was over. My heart literally shattered. All she was doing was trying to sell her merchandise and standed there.
    I don't really understand your problem. You asked for a photo and you got one. You wanted to talk to her, but I don't see where you are saying that you tried to, and she declined.

    Is she supposed to just know that you wanted to talk to her, while you are standing there mute? I am quite sure that if you would have started the conversation that she would have talked to you.

    I follow Stacy on FB. I have seen where she is at expos, and will post her exact seat and row number inviting people to come up and say hi to her while she is just watching from the stands.

    If you wanted to talk to her, but failed to open your mouth - that's your problem, not hers.
         
        03-16-2013, 08:21 PM
      #49
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by horselessmom    
    Good point. I thought about it a bit more. At 8 or 9 a kid could totally misinterpret the situation.

    I wonder where were the parents. I talk about these things with my kids, who are 8 and 10. We've attended various events with their "idols" and I always make sure they understand that their "idol" is unlikely to notice them or give them any individual attention. This way they are not disappointed, and if there's any personal interaction, then it is a pleasant surprise.

    On the other hand, if I was there with my 8 year old, and SW was standing "doing nothing", I would've helped my kid to communicate. "Hello there, this is my 8 year old, she is a fan, she has a question, do you have a minute?" And if, for example, I got a clear vibe from her that it wasn't a good time, I would've provided my kid with an explanation so that my kid isn't bitter for years.

    I'd also make sure that my kid had specific questions or comments, as not to waste SW's time.

    OP, where were your parents? What's their take on the situation?
    Okay, I just thought about it, and I must have been 10 or 11. My stepdad was right next to me and was the one to ask for a picture. He isn't quite the guy to help me in any situation since we aren't ever really on the same page, even was I was younger. And as for his take on the situation, I've had years and years of practice of keeping my disapointments and sadness on the inside so I'm sure he never has known.

    And for the other posts, he bought the stuff for me. I did have my own spending money with me, and this was an exception as he knew how much of an idol she was to me. (If I remember right, I had to pull out the puppy dog eyes for him to give in)

    Also, I was the person to email the support email for her products, and at that age I was mature, and I was capable of writing a business email. (Of course my parents gave it a once over and said okay) but it wasn't like I sent some kind of immature, poorly grammatic email.


    And on a bright note, the ball I bought I did have the chance to use it, since my horse likes to kick balls when I ride him so we probably did that once. I followed all the directions of keeping it out of the sun for extended periods of time, and it still managed to continously deflate after reinflating it multiple times. My last memory of is was doing yoga with it, and working on my balance.

    But like I said in an above reply, I actually grabbed a exercise ball from our dumpster that lasted longer than the $40 ball. The exercise ball was chewed on for a couple days and thrown around til it popped, but I am glad I atleast got use from it
         
        03-16-2013, 09:04 PM
      #50
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nrhareiner    
    What the OP stated is not the Stacy I know.

    Next the end products she produces is all that is needed. She more then PP or even CA has proven that what she does works. She goes out and proves it. So what if she does not talk for an hour to every person who comes up to her.

    Lets put this in anouther way. Take your favorite singer. Now lets say you went to a concert. Would you expenct them to stand around and talk to every person who was there? If they did not. If they ran as fast as they could to the bus and drove away. Would that make you like that persons music any less?
    No, but I sure would probably buy a t-shirt if he did :)
         

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