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post #1 of 14 Old 11-11-2013, 11:39 AM Thread Starter
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Trainer Question

I have a grade QH that I rescued, she is not being ridden right now, because of her condition, but she's come a long way. I do know she's going to need a tune up, she is a kids horse for sure, you can just tell, she even drops her head to be petted when any child approaches her.
My question is, how does one go about finding a trainer that can be trusted, one that is not going to abuse or neglect my horse? I thought I had found someone, he's very knowlegable , but also very undependable, so I'm not going to go with him. I have been to a show, and watched a trainer there, and all of his horses were great riding horses. I have already had one bad experience with a trainer years ago, and I've heard so many horror stories, even about top show trainers. Yes, I know to watch one work, get references and so forth, but how does a person go about finding a trainer they can trust that won't abuse the horse, and will actually work the horse? I don't think she's going to need much, she was once a 12 year old boys roping horse, but my 8 year old grandson rode her and she was very stubborn, didn't seem to neck rein, and very slow.
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post #2 of 14 Old 11-11-2013, 12:15 PM
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Do you have any teens near you that ride that are decent riders? By what you sound like you need, that is route I would go.

Some of it is going to be just who has an opening in their barn, or who has time. And most trainers are very good and sensible.

If you are determined to have a trainer, go to some barns and see how they act.
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post #3 of 14 Old 11-11-2013, 12:18 PM
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Well, word of mouth for one. Watching a trainer work, taking lessons from them, google search, hang around his barn and talking to the clients. Then when your horse goes for training its watching training sessions and getting updates. Speak to the clients and staff and ask how your horse is coming along.

You seem very hung up on the abuse thing. What exactly is your definition of abuse? Getting after a horse for not listening? Anyone who will use more then a snaffle? I watched a trainer work this weekend at the equine affair. The owner was trying to get the horse up onto a platform. The owner tried for 30min using praise and words of encouragement. Then the trainer took over from the ground. He asked the horse to step up on the platform. The horse obliged reluctantly and quickly hopped off. Then the trainer asked again and Ms. Mare was NOT having it and started rearing and backing away. She was swiftly whacked with the end of a long lead line and chased around the arena backward for about 45 seconds. Then her brought her back and asked her to step on again. She swung and this time the owner was there to get after her on the right. The chasing, and spanking went of for 10 min. Then magic happened. The horse realized it wasn't going to get away with the BS his push over owner was letting her get away with. The train stepped away 5 feet pointed to the balance beam and the mare got on and walked 15 feet across it. 15 minutes prior she was refusing to step foot on it.

The point of my story is it might have looked abusive from the other side of the fence with the horse knocking into things, jumping, rearing and him chasing her but that's what this horse needed. Far from abuse in my eyes, in fact I quite liked his train philosophy and methods! For someone else it might not be their cup of tea. If that person sent their horse to him they might not be happy with the method, but that doesn't mean it abusive or cruel. There are MANY different paths to get to the same point, you just have to find one that you like the best.
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Yes, I have a 13 year old granddaughter who rides and has friends that ride, but am not sure if they could get her to neck rein like I would want her to, and it's hard to get her above anything but a trot. I just want her to ride, and be a pleasure to ride. As for the abuse issues, I might sound a little hung up, because of things I read and hear about, some of those even involving show trainers, one well known in the QH world. I used a trainer once, he kept my horse in a filthy stall, no water, she'd lost weight, and I doubt he even rode her once. Yes, I know horses need a firm hand, and I am all for it. Our farrier actually had to discipline my daughter horse in the way you described, and I had no problem with it. I am referring to actual abuse, such as causing wounds and not seeing they're fed and have fresh water. I am 61 years old, and feel I have seen it all, and heard about it all. I could do it myself, if I were able to ride, but I am disabled and cannot. Maybe I'm just too picky, but the kind of horse I want to see ridden if I can't ride myself, is a typical western riding horse, one that has a great neck rein, back up, and stop, not something you have to mule rein, that just plods around like granny goosler. I know this mare has that potential, she was a roping horse. So, if I can't ride her myself like I like to ride, I want to see my grandkids riding and enjoying her and having fun. There are 3 horses in all, and the other 2 are excellent riding horses. I have 7 grandkids, from ages 20 down to age 2. I don't want anyone feeling left out, cause Nana's horse is no fun to ride!! Your advice was great, thanks.
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post #5 of 14 Old 11-11-2013, 01:53 PM
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So why not have a trainer come to you and rider? You probably don't need a trainer either. An experienced rider may be able to give her that tune up she needs.
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Best way to find anyone you need is to network. A friend of a friend type situation would haunt someone if they didn't do right.
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We really thought we had already found one, and were really happy. He is a trainer, farrier, does some simple vet work, and you can tell he really knows his stuff. But, we discovered really fast that he is VERY undependable. Makes appointments and never shows up or calls and cancels, I hgave him money to trim Mystery's hooves, plus bring me a round of hay, i paid him in advance, this was on a Sunday, and he said he needed cash because all of his "other clients" had given him checks. It took him 3 weeks to do as I asked, calling him and reminding him got me nowhere, he just made promises after promise he would be there tomorrow, Saturday, this afternoon, whatever. He is telling others I was "pestering him". Well, duh, he had $100 of my money. So no, we will not be doing anymore business with him.
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Ok, this video is an example of want I am looking for in a good riding horse, it is long, but at least get into it enought to watch the part where he is being ridden in that field.

Video*Gentle & Extremely Well Broke 11 Yr Ranch Gelding
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The best way to find a trainer in my opinion is to audit a lesson.

Find a discipline that you like. From there, find some reputable barns via word of mouth, shows, friends, or websites. At this point, you can contact the facilities and trainer via phone number or email address.

Websites and show results are awesome, but none of that really matters if you don't mesh with their teaching style.

I would suggest seeing as many as you can so that you can make a well informed decision. Good Luck ! :)

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post #10 of 14 Old 11-11-2013, 05:39 PM
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If you have any organizations in your area I would look on their websites for recommendations, as many post them there and they usually won't post just any old person with two legs because it's THEIR name on the line too. I know here we have Nebraska Dressage, Ride Nebraska and others that also respond well to emails and help you find people.

It looks like you are in TX so I'm sure there are some great organizations there with people who know "who's who" where it comes to trainers. It may take some work on your part but it can also help you weed out the "this person is scary don't use them" people too.
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