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    06-27-2013, 07:56 AM
Training method or just plain cruelty?

So I just started boarding my paint at a new barn, and am a bit concerned with the horse trainer's methods. To start off with, she is not one of the friendliest people, in fact she comes off as down right nasty. She is always critiquing, which is fine, but she has a total attitude and never says anything positive. Now, I'm one to stay away from people like this, so I have just been minding my own and working with my horse independently, but I can't help but notice how rough she is with horse's mouths. When she is "working with" the lesson horses, she yanks on their mouths until they put their heads down. One day when I was riding in the arena she said she wanted to "help" my horse, and when she got on took the reins, put her hands way up in the air and pulled as hard as she could until he put his head down. Then she proceeded to call him stubborn and told me that he had nasty habits. She claims that this is a dressage method, but never in my 13 years working with horses have I ever seen a trainer work like this. Am I just being paranoid? Or is this really a training method? Help!
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    06-27-2013, 08:36 AM

No good trainer yanks on a Horses Mouth like that.

Any trainer worth a plug nickle uses the pressure (gentle pressure) and release method to get the Horses Head to lower.


    06-27-2013, 08:47 AM
It sounds like she has no idea whatsoever. I would be staying clear of here altogether, and definitely not letting her on my horse.

It sounds a bit like she uses this tactic to pressure owners into believing their horse has bad habits by their reactions to her bad techniques.
    06-27-2013, 08:48 AM
Run far and fast. Keep that whackadoo away from your horse.
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    06-27-2013, 09:04 AM
Originally Posted by Oberon    
Am I just being paranoid? Or is this really a training method? Help!
You aren't being paranoid at all. It may be her training method but it's certainly a poor one. I wouldn't let her on a horse of mine and quite frankly I wouldn't allow behavior like that from a student (even a beginner child!) let alone someone claiming to be a trainer.

Honestly, I'd stick with your plan to steer clear. There's certainly nothing good that can come from hands like that.
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    06-27-2013, 10:28 AM
That horse depends on YOU to be his voice. NEVER LET ANYONE LIKE THAT ON / NEAR YOUR HORSE!! That horse is your responsibility. Trust your gut and what your eyes are telling you. Never give in to peer pressure ("oh she's such a great trainer, all her horses do so well in shows.." blah blah B.S.) I'm so very sorry your horse had to endure even a few moments of that pain and anger.
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    06-27-2013, 12:40 PM
In the words of Penny, "One serious Wacka-doodle"
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    06-27-2013, 12:52 PM
She's a Dressage Instructor????? Uh huh.
    06-27-2013, 05:54 PM
I knew that something was up. Definitely won't be letting her anywhere near my horse, let alone get anywhere near her in general. And the worst part is that the barn owner doesn't allow any other trainers on the site. Total BS. Thank you everyone!
    06-27-2013, 07:36 PM
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The second a student (I only teach children, and often green as grass beginner riders) of mine did that, I'd have him or her on the ground with a very stern lecture ahead of them. No way I'd go for letting a 'trainer' do that with my horse. It has taken a LOT of work to get my animals to where they are, and I'm not about to have that ruined by a self proclaimed miracle worker. Why did you let this trainer on your horse in the first place if you'd seen her yanking the lesson horses around already?
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