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post #31 of 36 Old 07-31-2013, 10:23 PM Thread Starter
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Today I got to experience more "quick fixes" from a different trainer. The rider was on a speed horse, that if it wasn't running, it was hopping around/small rearing in one spot due to the rider. I sat there watching, thinking what I would do. This horse doesn't get walked around during our speed practices, just ran and then has to stand, and run again. The rider always has the reins tight when she is standing, in attempt to keep her still. It's really hard to describe. My horse used to do it too when we would run, and then stand, and repeat until I started doing small exercises in between to keep his mind busy.

As soon as she got fed up with attempting to control the horse, she hopped off crying, and her mom fetched a tie down. Didn't help of course. Her dad then got on and got that horse to stand. Relaxed, fine. He only did one thing that I wouldn't really agree with, which was when the horse started jumping around, he grabbed her ear and twisted it. It automatically ended the problem though.
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post #32 of 36 Old 08-01-2013, 12:22 PM
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My bf has only done that with a runaway horse. If he cant get it to stop any other way it works. I don't agree with it ether though. Someone twitched my mare once and i flipped. took forever to be able to touch her ears again -_-'
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post #33 of 36 Old 08-01-2013, 06:40 PM
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Wow. I just had a conversation with one of my campers (I'm a counselor at an equestrian camp) about her new horse's "training". If you weren't in Michigan I'd expect my camper's "trainer" was the same as the one you met!

The horse is a 3-year OTTB (not an appropriate horse for a 12 yr old, IMO) and is being trained in a twisted wire bit, tie-down, draw reins, and a running martingale. Let me say that NO, I have not seen the horse, so obviously it could be exaggerated, but this is what I was told. Apparently they put something new on every time he acts up. According to another camper who rides at the same farm, the horse's mouth is bloody after every training "session". It made me pretty sick to my stomach, and I gave the camper's mom my own trainer's number. I really don't understand the point putting tons of equipment on a horse in training.
And just think... That horse understands what she's doing and why she's doing it even less than we do.... Honestly, not to be mean or anything, but I could just smack people who do that... I'd smack them out of the blue, then I'd be like "How did that feel? Did you understand why I did that?" And once they answer I'd say "Well how do you think that horse feels about what you're doing to it?"

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post #34 of 36 Old 08-01-2013, 10:16 PM
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I don't know what idiot this is, but I can assure you that a GOOD Saddlebred trainer is NOT like this.

This is not a trainer, this is someone that has learned just enough to have some of the methodology down, but none of the reasoning behind it is understood.

This type of person needs to be horsewhipped.

There are good trainers in all breeds. And bad too.

You can find them if you look.

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post #35 of 36 Old 08-02-2013, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by EliRose View Post
I really don't understand the point putting tons of equipment on a horse in training.
Lazy folks use short cuts when they can. Also people who are the "I WANT IT NOW" type.
Makes me ill.

Just DO it and be happy that you can!
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post #36 of 36 Old 08-03-2013, 07:59 AM
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So many people call themselves "trainers" who are unqualified and the horses suffer. If you can't train without abusing the horse, then don't call yourself a trainer, because you are not. Discipline is one thing, abuse is another. If a trainer ever tried this garbage on my horse they would be gone fast. Only advice I can give is if you find yourself cringing when a trainer is working your horse, maybe you need a new trainer.
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