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post #121 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 07:56 AM
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Of course it's not that vaquero stuff!
Or nobody would pay attention to PP!
Who would want to ride vaquero when you know how to do better?
I agree with Cowchick. I'm glad I haven't encountered you before. The problem more people don't train with vaquero ways is they are either uneducated, don't have the correct seat or light hands, or don't have the experience with horses to do so. All NH is a way to cut corners in training the proper horse, so sadly everyone can buy a DVD on training and think they are a big shot horse trainer. When most horses have holes the size of trucks in their training. Better way? I'm not seeing it.
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post #123 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 09:05 AM
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...And we can do all of that things without putting a gun in the horse's mouth!
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post #124 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 09:12 AM
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I will say this. There are things I like about Parelli at least at level 1 which is all that I've watched but there are also many things I like about CA, Chris Cox, and Stacey Westfall. I think they all have things to bring to the table and I think hating on one particular trainer because of his marketing methods and/or poor riding ability doesnt mean they don't have something good to share it just means take any trainers advice with a grain of salt if you are not getting one on one time with that trainer.

Im not about to hate on PP or CA. They are both accomplished trainers and you can dislike things about them or the way they handle themselves but they still have well trained horses.
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post #125 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 09:17 AM
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Ehhh. Doesn't impress me, at all. Because I can do all the same stuff with my horses, without a bridle, I'm not going to try and explain this to you, you are obviously too ignorant to be wasting my time. Any Parelli horse I have encountered has been well bored and actually quiet annoyed with his meaningless so called games. I want to get a job done with my horses, I have to that's how I make a living. Not just play a game and dink around with my horses in the arena. People have been training it the vaquero way for hundreds of years, and it's passed down through the generations as learned inheritance. But I'm not wasting my time any further. I suggest before your make snide comments on a subject you know absolutely nothing about, read this link..

Vaquero Enterprises - Featuring Cowboy and Western Artist Ernest Morris
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Or watch this video. And this isn't even a finished horse.

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post #127 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 09:40 AM
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Or watch this video. And this isn't even a finished horse.

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I just feel sorry for the horse when I see What he has in his mouth and the guy pulling the rein.
He sure to the job, or he will have his skull broken by the bit.

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post #128 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 09:41 AM
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I don't know, maybe because he coined the phrase "Natural Horsemanship" in the first place ?

Source "The Revolution in Horsemanship" by Robert M Miller and Rick Lamb. Page 35. Quote "In the 1980s, Pat Parelli coined the term "natural horsemanship" and gave the name to an entire movement"

No he did not. NH and that term has been around a lot longer then PP. While he MAY have made the term more main stream he did not come up with it. NH has been around for more years then any of the trainers want you to think.
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When it comes to horse training, a trainer can comment with knowledge on another trainers ability or lack there of.
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post #130 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 09:46 AM
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I just feel sorry for the horse when I see What he has in his mouth and the guy pulling the rein.
He sure to the job, or he will have his skull broken by the bit.
Not sure what video you where watching but that was a very nice example of a well trained youngster. The riders hands never moved the horse was on a loose rein the whole time. The horse was in a transition time as he had a bit and a bosel. Again I think you need to learn what you are looking at before you open your mouth.
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