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post #151 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 10:29 AM
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This just shows how little you know about bits. The traditional bit used by the Vaqeros is called a spade bit. It is a pre signal bit used on finished bridle horses. Is it not use to train a horse and there is no pulling. The lightest movement of the reins will signal the horse and that along with the riders seat and legs cue the horse to do what is being asked. It is not about the bit but the training. You can not get this level of fenness or lightness in a snaffle. This is why a finished bridle horse is not in one but in a spade bit.
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post #152 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 10:31 AM
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Mexican Charro training is NOT the same as vaquero training. You really are showing how little you actually know.

You want the truth? You can't HANDLE the truth!
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post #153 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 10:32 AM
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So this is it : you put such a bit in your horse's mouth to use it.

And here is a fine "dog" for Wanstrom

Liberté à la plage avec Tao - YouTube
Be sure that horse never had something else than a snaffle bit in his mouth...
Ok now lets see that horse so some real work. Just just some running on the beach. Let see that horse work some cattle. Lets see that horse do some side passing and some rope work and something past just lopping around. That is not hard. Does not take a lot of extra training.
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post #154 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 10:34 AM
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Here's the same guy from the last video I posted. And this horse was trained with vaquero horsemanship. And this isn't a finished horse either, he's still in the two rein also. Can't ride bridle less??

~Started young horses in Bosca te Ador, unto the two rein the old Spanish spade, brought them along with two hands that were gentle. Some fine reining horses as ever were made~
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post #155 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 10:35 AM
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If you say so...


What speed said. If you do not know the difference they you should either educate yourself or back out now as you are just digging a deeper....
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If you say so...


Not even in the same universe.. Way way different. Shows how little you know..
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post #157 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 10:39 AM
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Ok now lets see that horse so some real work. Just just some running on the beach. Let see that horse work some cattle. Lets see that horse do some side passing and some rope work and something past just lopping around. That is not hard. Does not take a lot of extra training.
Oh yes, I get it : it's not about horses or horsemanship, it's about cattle!

You don't care about the horse, you just want to get back your cattle in the barn for the night!

I think I understand better and better :
- Why in europe we're better at biomecanics, but often riding uneducated horses.
- why your horses look like robots (I understand that's for security)
- why NH had so often appeared in the areas where vaquero's riding was the norm...

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post #158 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 10:44 AM
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So this is it : you put such a bit in your horse's mouth to use it.

And here is a fine "dog" for Wanstrom

Liberté à la plage avec Tao - YouTube
Be sure that horse never had something else than a snaffle bit in his mouth...
And how practical do you think it is for a working cowboy to parade around bridless all day while roping cows and working cattle?? This is why I giggle like Rick Gore (about the only thing Rick Gore and I have in common) when I see people parading such an impractical example of 'horsemanship'......apart from beng able to put on a good show performing maneuvers bridless bareback.....in the REAL WORLD this is not practical.....So your example is.....well just that....
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post #159 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 10:45 AM
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Oh yes, I get it : it's not about horses or horsemanship, it's about cattle!

You don't care about the horse, you just want to get back your cattle in the barn for the night!

I think I understand better and better :
- Why in europe we're better at biomecanics, but often riding uneducated horses.
- why your horses look like robots (I understand that's for security)
- why NH had so often appeared in the areas where vaquero's riding was the norm...
NH is very few and far between in my area. And many people that move in to the my area are the ones that bring it in. Do you know anything???? Grazing cattle don't go into a barn at night.. Seriously?! I'm not sure if your just uneducated or ignorant.... It's almost sad that you can tell us all we are horse a abusers for riding bridle horses, although you know nothing!!
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post #160 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 10:49 AM
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And how practical ... all day while roping cows and working cattle?? In the REAL WORLD this is not practical.....
In real world, cattle is handled by farmers without the help of any horse.

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