Your opinion on Parelli

Dame Nuit · 01-23-2013, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by nrhareiner

This just shows how little you know about bits. The traditional bit used by the Vaqeros is called a spade bit. It is a pre signal bit used on finished bridle horses. Is it not use to train a horse and there is no pulling. The lightest movement of the reins will signal the horse and that along with the riders seat and legs cue the horse to do what is being asked. It is not about the bit but the training. You can not get this level of fenness or lightness in a snaffle. This is why a finished bridle horse is not in one but in a spade bit.

If you say so...

Speed Racer · 01-23-2013, 10:31 AM

Mexican Charro training is NOT the same as vaquero training. You really are showing how little you actually know.

nrhareiner · 01-23-2013, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dame Nuit

So this is it : you put such a bit in your horse's mouth to use it.

And here is a fine "dog" for Wanstrom

Libert� � la plage avec Tao - YouTube
Be sure that horse never had something else than a snaffle bit in his mouth...

Ok now lets see that horse so some real work. Just just some running on the beach. Let see that horse work some cattle. Lets see that horse do some side passing and some rope work and something past just lopping around. That is not hard. Does not take a lot of extra training.

Wanstrom Horses · 01-23-2013, 10:34 AM

Garrocha bridleless on Vaquero two rein horse -...

Vaquero Two Rein Horse Bridleless - YouTube

Here's the same guy from the last video I posted. And this horse was trained with vaquero horsemanship. And this isn't a finished horse either, he's still in the two rein also. Can't ride bridle less??

nrhareiner · 01-23-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dame Nuit

If you say so...

What speed said. If you do not know the difference they you should either educate yourself or back out now as you are just digging a deeper....

Wanstrom Horses · 01-23-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dame Nuit

If you say so...

Not even in the same universe.. Way way different. Shows how little you know..

Dame Nuit · 01-23-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by nrhareiner

Ok now lets see that horse so some real work. Just just some running on the beach. Let see that horse work some cattle. Lets see that horse do some side passing and some rope work and something past just lopping around. That is not hard. Does not take a lot of extra training.

Oh yes, I get it : it's not about horses or horsemanship, it's about cattle!

You don't care about the horse, you just want to get back your cattle in the barn for the night!

I think I understand better and better :
- Why in europe we're better at biomecanics, but often riding uneducated horses.
- why your horses look like robots (I understand that's for security)
- why NH had so often appeared in the areas where vaquero's riding was the norm...

Muppetgirl · 01-23-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dame Nuit

So this is it : you put such a bit in your horse's mouth to use it.

And here is a fine "dog" for Wanstrom

Libert� � la plage avec Tao - YouTube
Be sure that horse never had something else than a snaffle bit in his mouth...

And how practical do you think it is for a working cowboy to parade around bridless all day while roping cows and working cattle?? This is why I giggle like Rick Gore (about the only thing Rick Gore and I have in common) when I see people parading such an impractical example of 'horsemanship'......apart from beng able to put on a good show performing maneuvers bridless bareback.....in the REAL WORLD this is not practical.....So your example is.....well just that....

Wanstrom Horses · 01-23-2013, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dame Nuit

Oh yes, I get it : it's not about horses or horsemanship, it's about cattle!

You don't care about the horse, you just want to get back your cattle in the barn for the night!

I think I understand better and better :
- Why in europe we're better at biomecanics, but often riding uneducated horses.
- why your horses look like robots (I understand that's for security)
- why NH had so often appeared in the areas where vaquero's riding was the norm...

NH is very few and far between in my area. And many people that move in to the my area are the ones that bring it in. Do you know anything???? Grazing cattle don't go into a barn at night.. Seriously?! I'm not sure if your just uneducated or ignorant.... It's almost sad that you can tell us all we are horse a abusers for riding bridle horses, although you know nothing!!

Dame Nuit · 01-23-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Muppetgirl

And how practical ... all day while roping cows and working cattle?? In the REAL WORLD this is not practical.....

In real world, cattle is handled by farmers without the help of any horse.

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