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post #161 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 10:50 AM
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Oh yes, I get it : it's not about horses or horsemanship, it's about cattle!

You don't care about the horse, you just want to get back your cattle in the barn for the night!

I think I understand better and better :
- Why in europe we're better at biomecanics, but often riding uneducated horses.
- why your horses look like robots (I understand that's for security)
- why NH had so often appeared in the areas where vaquero's riding was the norm...
Again you seem to be missing the point. The old saying still goes. Want to see who well broke your horse is put them on cattle. Around here cattle are kept in feed lots. No need to round them up.

However the fact is that if you really want to know how well trained a horse is ask them to do something that requires some real work like working cattle. You will find the holes in your training real fast.

Again you are showing your ignorance about what you are looking at and THINK you know.

Come ride one of my horses. You will soon learn what it is like to ride a well bred well trained horse. No robot here. That would imply that you have to do nothing in order to ride them. Not so. If you do not know what you are doing you will never get them to move. Neighbor girl found that out a few years ago. She started out riding my stallion. He will pack anyone around. Yet put someone who knows what they are doing and you can go out and do anything with him from reining to cow work to roping. Now same kid on my Dun It mare. She is not a packer. You better know what you are doing and know how to cue her or she will not move. Not one muscles not one inch.

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post #162 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 10:50 AM
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NH is very few and far between in my area. And many people that move in to the my area are the ones that bring it in. Do you know anything???? Grazing cattle don't go into a barn at night.. Seriously?! I'm not sure if your just uneducated or ignorant.... It's almost sad that you can tell us all we are horse a abusers for riding bridle horses, although you know nothing!!
All I know, I read it in your topic!

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post #163 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 10:51 AM
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In real world, cattle is handled by farmers without the help of any horse.
No, in small provinces where you have limited land, you don't NEED horses to move cattle. When you're talking thousands of acres as well as head of cattle, it's not even comparable to some quaint little French farmer and his small herd.

Maybe you need to actually travel to the US and see how big of a land mass we occupy. Ranches that run cattle actually have miles upon miles of range, not a few acres. The 'world' isn't just your little provincial corner.

You want the truth? You can't HANDLE the truth!
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post #164 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 10:52 AM
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In real world, cattle is handled by farmers without the help of any horse.

What real world are you living in? While there are area where cattle are kept in feed lots like dairy farms the vast majority of feeder cattle are free ranged and most large ramotas still to this day use horses to round them up and doctor them and brand them. Not to mention fixing fencing.
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Oh yes, I get it : it's not about horses or horsemanship, it's about cattle!

You don't care about the horse, you just want to get back your cattle in the barn for the night!

I think I understand better and better :
- Why in europe we're better at biomecanics, but often riding uneducated horses.
- why your horses look like robots (I understand that's for security)
- why NH had so often appeared in the areas where vaquero's riding was the norm...
Long before you or anyone else on this board was was born people relied on horses for their survival.....unfortunately for the uneducated like yourself they have now just become big pets to play with..........some folk here choose to ride an obedient well trained horse, I guess that's why you use the word 'robot',......you are failing to see that without a well trained sound horse ranchers wouldn't be able to get their cattle 'back in the barn' as you say, so why on earth do you think a rancher would ride nothing but a good sound horse and not take care of it.....

Your sheltered views are quite laughable.
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post #166 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 10:54 AM
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What real world are you living in? While there are area where cattle are kept in feed lots like dairy farms the vast majority of feeder cattle are free ranged and most large ramotas still to this day use horses to round them up and doctor them and brand them. Not to mention fixing fencing.
It says she's in France.....it's all fenced pasture.....not big open range like in Canada, US or Australia......
Hobby farming I believe......that's just me being ignorant
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post #167 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 10:54 AM
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In real world, cattle is handled by farmers without the help of any horse.
You try rounding up cattle on foot when they are running on 2000 acres.. Let me know how it works for you.. They aren't your gentle barnyards milk jugs...

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post #168 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 10:57 AM
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All I know, I read it in your topic!
Ummm ok??? Why don't you just admit your wrong and move on... Your the only one here who seems to Not understand anything??? If your such a good horse trainer, where's all your horses?? And how broke are they??
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post #169 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 10:59 AM
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It says she's in France.....it's all fenced pasture.....not big open range like in Canada, US or Australia......
Hobby farming I believe......that's just me being ignorant
Yes that is why I stated she needs to learn more about how we farm here. While there are some ranchers/farmer show use feed lots to keep their cattle in they are more in my area where land is too expensive to graze livestock on. The land is used to grow grain and hay to feed the cattle all year around. Also dairy farmers who do not graze their cows at all. They are not even turned out.

Yet I know that it is very different out west where cattle are turned out all the time. Most not seen for months at a time. Same with some of the horses.

This is why people like her needs to learn before they talk (type)

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post #170 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 11:01 AM
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Yes, but I guess since we are all idiots, we better listen to her. Nobody does it like they do it in France! They do it the only right way!!
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