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post #211 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 01:28 PM
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Oh missed that. Hate auto correct.

Well now that I think about it does doing AI work count??

Yeah, I figured it was auto-correct that gave us the word, not you.

AI definitely counts! So yeah, your horses are doing obstetrical work!

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post #212 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 01:30 PM
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No dear, obstetrics is what a gynecologist does. I think you meant obstacle.

Just poking a little fun because I found the typo amusing.
Obstetric work with cattle is not as much fun.......I have short arms
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Obstetric work with cattle is not as much fun.......I have short arms
You are more suited to sheep
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Yeah, I figured it was auto-correct that gave us the word, not you.

AI definitely counts! So yeah, your horses are doing obstetrical work!
I think if I let her Cassie would love to sick a hoof up a cows rear. LOL

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post #215 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 03:06 PM
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No he did not. NH and that term has been around a lot longer then PP. While he MAY have made the term more main stream he did not come up with it. NH has been around for more years then any of the trainers want you to think.
Please supply your references for this statement. At least I researched mine and provided references.
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post #216 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 04:17 PM
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My horse has never delivered a baby, but she's "had a cow" quite a few times...

I can admire jumpers, dressage riders and reiners without ever wanting to become one. And I'll give Pat Parelli this much - he doesn't object to someone using a leveraged bit, or believe that all riding starts and ends with a snaffle. Or bitless...

I don't want to work cattle on foot. Here is where an old friends runs his cattle:



Actually, he runs them just south of here. Have fun working cattle on foot in places like this! He did used to drive sheep thru this canyon, before the Feds told him he couldn't.

My trail riding is so trivial that most trail riders would laugh themselves silly at me calling it trail riding. There are folks who ride in places that would scare me worse than a 6' oxer, providing the horse knew how to jump a 6' oxer. See the trail riding section for some pictures. I had to buy some yellow underwear just so I could read some of the threads without anyone finding out what happened when I did!

The scariest riding I've done so far was having Mia galloping joyfully, the snaffle bit unfelt against her molars as my clumsy mare raced toward a blind turn I knew was ahead. Stopping her before she could send both of us rolling thru the cactus was more excitement than my 54 year old heart needed. Yes, it is a training hole, and yes, for the umpteenth time in 4 years, Mia and I are working on plugging a hole.

I can admire a lot of styles of riding. As I get older and more experienced, I'm less & less likely to denigrate others for choosing different from me.

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"Some people say that I am a “natural horseman” because I practice certain philosophies and techniques. Others say I’m not “natural” (oddly enough) for the very same reasons. If you ask me, I say that it seems pretty dang hard, if not impossible, to be - or not be - something that doesn’t even exist in the first place.

We’ll get back to that in a minute, but first, a quick history lesson. One might be surprised to learn that the term “natural horsemanship” didn’t really even exist prior to around 1985. You see, it was about that time that a well-known horse trainer coined the phrase and began using it as a marketing tool for a horse-training program he and his wife had developed. The term resonated with a lot of folks and whether people followed the program or not, they began using it as a way to define the methods and techniques they used to work with their horse. “I use natural horsemanship to train my horses.” Over the years the term has even morphed into what a lot of people might refer to as an actual equine discipline, like dressage, or reining or jumping. “I do natural horsemanship.”

Now, before going any further, it might be helpful to understand what the definition of the word natural, is. The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines the word as: being in accordance with or determined by nature. Dictionary.com defines the word as - existing in or formed by nature (opposed to artificial ): a natural bridge. So it seems to me that, in order for horsemanship to be truly natural, it must somehow match up with at least one of these, or at the very least, a similar definition. The problem is…nothing we do with horses does!"

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You don't even know what you are talking about! It's quite sad.... Calves are actually really hard to cut out because they are so little and very quick. You are only making yourself look like a nim-whit...
Sorting calves is just the worst. The best horse I ever had for it was a little welsh/QH cross gelding :P He was so snappy!

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Please supply your references for this statement. At least I researched mine and provided references.
Since you're so good at research, why not whip up some facts to disprove the statement.
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post #220 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 05:12 PM
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Re: the label, NH, I'm not going to spend the time finding "the horse's mouth" online, but I know for sure, because I've come across the story more than once, & Pat & Linda agree on how it came to be: It was Linda who coined the term! They were trying to think of a term, & LINDA said, "How about natural horsemanship?"
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