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post #221 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 04:18 PM
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Not so. The earliest I ever saw the term was long before Linda came into the picture when Pat was a one man show, and used the term Natural Horse.Man.Ship, with the periods between the words.

As far as who coined it first, does it really matter? It's certainly not a copyrighted term, so it's kind of moot who first uttered it.

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post #222 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 04:36 PM
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Oh yes, and your children do their first cutting in front of a bull, not with a baby calf?
Every body can jump over 1.00m without being good nor with any precision.
I can't make it past this comment. Mind you there have been about a thousand other comments you have made Dame that made me want to jump in. So here I am.

I am an English rider. I have owned an important grand prix jumper(and that's not a brag because I got a heck of a deal on him for a few different reasons). I have schooled just under 2 meters. Shown 1.60.

I have ridden grand prix dressage horses, I have only schooled up to 4th level though.

I have competed 3 Day Eventing up to Intermediate level.

Guess what? There is NO comparing a well bred and highly trained English horse to a working cow horse or reiner. I have done barrel racing, reining and cutting. I have never done any at a competitive level but i've hopped on friends horses and taken them for a spin.

A highly trained English horse can do lots. Heck my mare can go without a bridle as she is trained purely out of seat. I can think what I want and she does it. But its not the same as a ranch horse.

You need to pull your head out of your behind and realize that you can't compare. I have a lot of respect for these people who make their living off their ranch horses and livestock. These horses will jump anything you ask them to jump, run through anything you ask them to run through. These horses don't spook when they see a draft horse team hitched up. They don't lose their head when they hear a mule or see a cow. These horses are bred and trained to do whatever you pointed them at without question.

Yes English horses are trained to do as told, but they don't have the same response as a well bred and well trained ranch horse. And don't say its because I have never ridden a true jumper or dressage horse, because I have. I have worked with big name riders who bring imports and I have ridden their horses and the training they have is unbelievable, but its not the same.

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post #223 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 04:57 PM
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Someone 😜 shared this with me the other day, a vast vast difference:

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post #224 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 05:02 PM
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Someone 😜 shared this with me the other day, a vast vast difference:

Olena Oak and Ron Emmons.mov - YouTube
If I asked my little jumper bred mare to do that she would have a serious melt down and then some

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Someone 😜 shared this with me the other day, a vast vast difference:

Olena Oak and Ron Emmons.mov - YouTube

Did this with my mare never been trained on cattle and in her first reined cow horse show she won the open and int open bridle. Ended up in the top 5 in the NE region that year in the Int Open and top 10 in the Open. The next year finished in the top 5 in both open and Int open bridle with no extra training.

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The best part was the beautiful slide and swing he did on that cow!!!! Hmmmm need one!!!!!!
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Did this with my mare never been trained on cattle and in her first reined cow horse show she won the open and int open bridle. Ended up in the top 5 in the NE region that year in the Int Open and top 10 in the Open. The next year finished in the top 5 in both open and Int open bridle with no extra training.
Yea well, I thought about trying it for a few seconds while sitting here at home. Bratty mare tossed me into the rafters and high tailed it out of the ring leaving a huge hole in the wall.

Does that win me the flying dismount division?

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Ha flying dismount division is just as good as the cow in the saddle division.
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Since you're so good at research, why not whip up some facts to disprove the statement.
Don't need to, others seem to have done it for me and found I was probably correct with the reference I gave.
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post #230 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 06:04 PM
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Well lets see. I remember hearing the term back in the late 70's early 80's. So I know it has been around that long. While PP may have started to use it in his show the tern has been around long before that. Just b/c you have not heard any one use it does not mean it was not being used.
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