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post #241 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 08:01 PM
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So...uh...I missed a lot today....

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I just feel sorry for the horse when I see What he has in his mouth and the guy pulling the rein.
He sure to the job, or he will have his skull broken by the bit.
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What you saw was not horse mouth gaping, but horse chewing. What we want to have the horse do. Because when a horse is chewing, he has his whole back relaxed and so he has a better locomotion.
I'm affraid you're not able ta do the same thing with your vaquero horses.
And I'm affraid, the vaquero's way is not the only way to ride a horse.

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Not at all! I just see that those who say they don't like the method just don't know how it works.


No only the vaquero's way to ride a horse, using a bit that could break its skull... There are plenty of traditions to ride a horse, very few of them use such brutal tacks.
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Oh yes, I get it : it's not about horses or horsemanship, it's about cattle!

You don't care about the horse, you just want to get back your cattle in the barn for the night!

I think I understand better and better :
- Why in europe we're better at biomecanics, but often riding uneducated horses.
- why your horses look like robots (I understand that's for security)
- why NH had so often appeared in the areas where vaquero's riding was the norm...
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In real world, cattle is handled by farmers without the help of any horse.
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So here we go again... We sure know how to get that without your awfull bridle! Having light and responisve horse when ridden is the begging of everything, this is nothing special you can find only in your kind of horsemanship!
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I don't understand how a finished western bridle horse is the same way you don't understand a finished dressage horse is.
When you say "but they still require some contact" that mean you have no idea of how many informations you can get in you hands when the horse agree with a soft contact. Contact is not required by the horse, but by the rider.
It's a completly different way to do things. You don't want to understand how I can't k now the way you do. But you don't know more about the way we do.
The feed back from the horse to the riders hand is a great help for lightness and precision, and couldn't be done with a harsh bit. And you can't jump over very big obstacle without mastering that part of riding precision.
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Oh yes, and your children do their first cutting in front of a bull, not with a baby calf?
Every body can jump over 1.00m without being good nor with any precision.
This is all I can manage right now....

I DON'T LEAD 'EM AND FEED 'EM, I RIDE 'EM AND SLIDE 'EM.

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post #242 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 08:06 PM
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post #243 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 09:07 PM
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Early "Horse Whisperers":

"Daniel Sullivan (died 1810) from Mallow, Co. Cork, Ireland, was an Irish horse trainer, who specialised in rehabilitation of horses which were unresponsive to traditional methods. A large portion of his work took place in England..
Wow, he could be a relative of mine, since my mother was 100% Irish, maiden name Sullivan! No wonder I'm so good with horses!
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post #244 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 09:42 PM
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Actually, the person the book and movie were referring to was Buck Brannaman, NOT Monty Roberts. Buck was even a consultant on the movie, and they used one of his personal horses for a scene that the stunt horse kept getting wrong.

I like Buck. His no nonsense style and plain talk appeal to me.
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post #245 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 09:43 PM
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Actually, the person the book and movie were referring to was Buck Brannaman, NOT Monty Roberts. Buck was even a consultant on the movie, and they used one of his personal horses for a scene that the stunt horse kept getting wrong.

I like Buck. His no nonsense style and plain talk appeals to me.
I knew the movie wasn't relating to Monty, I was just thinking the hype for Monty was right around the time of the book.

However I had no idea it was Buck they were referring to. That's kinda neat actually.

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post #246 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 11:03 PM
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I think there is a bit of a cultural schism here (gap or misalignment). I think that Dame Nuit's first language is not English. With that in mind, please consider that language and culture misunderstandings are a likely possibility, on both sides of the discussion. Please try to "cut each other a little more slack" if you can.
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post #247 of 402 Old 01-23-2013, 11:34 PM
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I studied Parelli and Dennis Reis after sudying John Lyons for years. Then! I found Clinton Anderson to help me Re-Train 2 half Arabs and start my 2 new Arabian babies. Down UnderHorsemanship is the only trainer for me now. Never looked back!
Also a Clinton Anderson's fan, his methods are simply easy to understand and make so much sense! Also heard good things about the Lyons Legacy. In my opinion, Clinton is like the 'new' version of Parelli but with improved techniques.
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post #248 of 402 Old 01-24-2013, 01:32 AM
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I think there is a bit of a cultural schism here (gap or misalignment). I think that Dame Nuit's first language is not English. With that in mind, please consider that language and culture misunderstandings are a likely possibility, on both sides of the discussion. Please try to "cut each other a little more slack" if you can.

Are you the only one who have noticed that?
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post #249 of 402 Old 01-24-2013, 07:50 AM
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Are you the only one who have noticed that?
Hardly noticeable. And your English is much, much better than my French.
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post #250 of 402 Old 01-24-2013, 08:23 AM
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Are you the only one who have noticed that?
Considering I have seen your country of origin referenced in several replies in this thread, I would say not.
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