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post #251 of 402 Old 01-24-2013, 09:45 AM
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Actually, the person the book and movie were referring to was Buck Brannaman, NOT Monty Roberts. Buck was even a consultant on the movie, and they used one of his personal horses for a scene that the stunt horse kept getting wrong.

I like Buck. His no nonsense style and plain talk appeal to me.
When the film came out in the UK Monty Roberts leapt right on to the bandwagon and really did sell himself as a Horse Whisperer and since Buck was never mentioned or stuck his hand up the award went to Monty - in fact I would say its only since the film was made about Buck that he became well known in the UK and appeared on some TV stations talking about himself - always sounding so modest & humble
A lot of wannabee american cowboys jumped into bed with Monty and sucked it all in - these had to be all very amateur and gullible people as the average experienced UK horsepeople were pissed off that some american thought we needed to learn how to break horses without cruelty when our own non cruel methods had been successful for hundreds of years.
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post #252 of 402 Old 01-24-2013, 10:13 AM
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I think there is a bit of a cultural schism here (gap or misalignment). I think that Dame Nuit's first language is not English. With that in mind, please consider that language and culture misunderstandings are a likely possibility, on both sides of the discussion. Please try to "cut each other a little more slack" if you can.
Her uninformed, ignorant rantings and insults come across loud and clear, so I hardly think it's a 'cultural misunderstanding'.
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post #253 of 402 Old 01-24-2013, 10:27 AM
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^^exactly. Misunderstanding?? No.. Ignorance? Definitely..

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you're flattering me, really!

“For what the horse does under compulsion, as Simon also observes, is done without understanding; and there is no beauty in it either, any more than if one should whip and spur a dancer.” Xenophon


Centuries ago, they already knew that...

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post #255 of 402 Old 01-24-2013, 10:48 AM
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^^ Ever see the bits Xenophon used?

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you're flattering me, really!

“For what the horse does under compulsion, as Simon also observes, is done without understanding; and there is no beauty in it either, any more than if one should whip and spur a dancer.” Xenophon


Centuries ago, they already knew that...

Have fun guys!
And your point being?.. No one here ever said they whip and spur their horses....

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And your point being?.. No one here ever said they whip and spur their horses....
Oh come on now! We use bits, so obviously we whip and spur our horses. Didn't you get the memo?

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post #258 of 402 Old 01-24-2013, 11:00 AM
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Haha! I just beat my horses to no end. I'm such an abuser! I also break their "skulls" with bits.. I'm surprised someone hasn't turned me in yet!!

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I don't use whips, I use a 2X4 with nails in it. Works so much better than any wimpy whip!

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Now all I need is PP to cure me of my evil ways.

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