**ChompChomp** On the bit... - The Horse Forum

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post #1 of 18 Old 11-17-2011, 11:34 PM Thread Starter
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**ChompChomp** On the bit...

My 3 year old has been a little on the hotter side since day one. But, just recently, she has started to just work the bit constantly when I'm asking things from her, such as collection, bending, sidepasses ect... It's more annoying than everything, because I get the feeling that she is not paying full attention to me, the way she should. She's just in a simple snaffle bit.

Any advice on how to break the habit? Do you think it's a thing she does when confused, or fighting me, or what...?

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post #2 of 18 Old 11-18-2011, 12:41 AM
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I can't say I know to much about fixing the situation. What I guess could help is if you have a vet or yourself to look inside the horses mouth for any sores that could be agitating her. My arab came to us like this and once we did the overall vet check we found the problem, but he is a natural bit player... I am an english rider... so he has a flash on not tight by any means but enough to keep him from working his mouth crazy like.

Another idea is to try and make the bit a happy place... train him to take the bit and sit nicely with it in the mouth... I use clicker training so that would help.

Or do you use a heavy hand? I'm guessing not but I have the few occasions with my QH since he always is trying to rear when he doesn't get his way...

Good luck! Hope all goes well!
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post #3 of 18 Old 11-18-2011, 12:42 AM
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Is she chewing and PULLING on the bit, thus tugging the reins out of your hands?
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post #4 of 18 Old 11-18-2011, 01:29 PM Thread Starter
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I rider her with a light hand, but I do ride her with a slight contact on the bit when I'm working her, mostly for help with bending, flexing and collection.

She also takes the bit very well, I just have to touch it to her lips and she takes it, it's only when I try to work her than she gets silly.

She doesn't try to pull the bit out of my hands, she just tucks her head up tight and chomps ferociously on the bit, which is annoying because she isn't collected, and I can't get her to relax her head when she does this, other than asking her to move out into a trot for a few steps.

I'm considering buying a bit that has copper rollers on it.... would that help?
It would be like this bit:
AHE Antique Brown Dee Dog Bone Bit 261-410

And when I'm using her at brandings in the Spring pulling calves, I'd graduate her to something like this:
BS Training Bit 263-115

I'm also planning on starting her on the barrel pattern in Spring as well, for that, she'd be in a snaffle of course.

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post #5 of 18 Old 11-18-2011, 02:20 PM
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Copper Center Roller Dee Snaffle Bit < D-Ring Bits < Horse Tack|Dover Saddlery.

I use that bit on my gelding. Its a perfect fit for him, and fun to fiddle with. The copper helps salivation, too. :)

I found that roller bits like these are harder to play with... Because I'm the dork at the tack store who has to grab all the roller bits and spin them

Copper Roller Dee Snaffle Bit < D-Ring Bits < Horse Tack|Dover Saddlery .


All in all, I LOVE the bit I use on him now. When/if he graduates to something with shanks, I'll be using the same roller idea. I might just want to keep this one, neck reining or not. :)

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post #6 of 18 Old 11-18-2011, 07:28 PM Thread Starter
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So, do you think getting a roller would be good for my mare?

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My 3 year old has been a little on the hotter side since day one. But, just recently, she has started to just work the bit constantly when I'm asking things from her, such as collection, bending, sidepasses ect... It's more annoying than everything, because I get the feeling that she is not paying full attention to me, the way she should. She's just in a simple snaffle bit.

Any advice on how to break the habit? Do you think it's a thing she does when confused, or fighting me, or what...?
The horse is 3. Be pleased if it walks and trots without bucking. The horse is simply telling you that you are pushing too fast. I don't expect collection until 6 and don't start lateral work until 5. Asking for these things too early on a green, unconditioned horse is setting up for physical and in this horses case, mental issues down the road. Listen to the horse.
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post #8 of 18 Old 11-18-2011, 07:37 PM Thread Starter
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Well, thanks for your advice, but upon posting videos of me and her just doing some flat work, I had several people tell me that I should get her working on collection and lateral work... so that's what I did. This was on another forum, so no one here should be offended.

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Well, thanks for your advice, but upon posting videos of me and her just doing some flat work, I had several people tell me that I should get her working on collection and lateral work... so that's what I did. This was on another forum, so no one here should be offended.

Anebel is right and the members of the other forum are wrong.

No one here is offended but since you feel the "other forum people" are the ones to listen to maybe you should just ask them what to do to fix your horse's mouth problems.
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post #10 of 18 Old 11-19-2011, 12:23 AM
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I think a roller would fix some of the problem. I'm sure collection would help, too.

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