If you do it quickly and not hard, it will not bring them a lot of pain.
That is different to getting upset by me 'implying' you were causing ANY pain.
So instead of telling me I shouldnt do it, tell me to do a one rein stop, for example. Thanks.
Sounds like perhaps you didn't read my original reply, as that is precisely what I suggested.
IMO it's helpful to people to tell them what, IME they should avoid doing, as well as...
"I'd take him back to the basics & teach him to yield laterally. ...
TEACH him to respond rather than try to force....
I think it's far better - as well as more effective - not to get into these situations if possible until you've trained the horse to respond to *soft* cues."
I disagree with you that just because you want him to be a trail horse & he's already been taken on trails means you should just keep doing this & shouldn't go back to the basics with him.