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post #1 of 20 Old 06-19-2013, 05:07 PM Thread Starter
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Exclamation *Trainer was Horrified by this bit*

I went to a Barrel Racing clinic this winter. The clinician had brought along all her bits and went through them and said what horses they should be used for and why. She said if we wanted to try a different bit in our horse we could talk to her and see what she recommended. I went and talked to her and she let me try a bit that was a locked gag, 7" shanks, twisted dogbone mouthpiece and a curb set back. My horse worked amazing in it. It was a custom ordered bit so she gave me the site she got it from. We aren't using it for more control but to help her on turns.

I still need to order it.. But I went to gaming practice for 4-h on Monday. I was riding in a D-ring roller snaffle and she told me to go into a gag bit like my friends, which was a wonder bit. I told her about the bit I had used at the barrel clinic and she was horrified by it. She uses some crazy bits on her horses also that I would be horrified to use.

If I do order it, I am going to get a plain dogbone mouthpiece.

The bit is here (#179-the picture right below):
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I'm a light handed rider, I do a lot of bending/flexing, work on moving hips/shoulders so I'm not using it for more control. Just to help her on her turns. The horse I would be using it on is a Thoroughbred who had race training but never raced and she can run home and I can stop her in a snaffle.

Picture is with her in the bit.


Also I won't be able to get this bit until around July 1st, at our Fleet Farm they have a bit with a little bit more gag, I don't believe it has a curb setback, but it has a plain dogbone. We are going there tonight and I don't know if I should get that and try her in that.

Thanks for reading this dreadly long post...
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post #2 of 20 Old 06-19-2013, 05:56 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with that bit. Kinda reminds me of a junior cow.
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This one?

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post #4 of 20 Old 06-19-2013, 06:39 PM
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Yes, is it the one posted above me, or the one directly to the left of that on the website?
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I'm hoping its the one bsms posted, not the chain one to its left on the website. I'd love to hear what other posters say about it, doesn't seem outside the realm of effective bits to me.
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I was horrified to see my friend riding her horse in the exact bit that you posted. I thought it would be harsh. Her horse was quiet, happy, and responsive. Until my horse works half as well as hers does, I guess that I will have to concede that the bit is ok.
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I'm not a bit expert, but my biggest concern I guess (although its small) is what happens to the leverage when the mouth piece is essentially in the middle of the shank? Anyone know?

I'm glad you're option for a plain, not twisted, mouth piece. Twisted isn't my favorite to see in a horse's mouth without good reason.
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I was expecting something horrible, but that doesn't look harsh at all. If you have light hands and your horse is working in it, go for it!
I think your trainer needs to get out more
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post #9 of 20 Old 06-19-2013, 11:17 PM Thread Starter
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It is the one she posted.

At the barrel clinic the mouthpiece was twisted, but I really don't care for it. Why need something stronger?

She was just a trainer working with all the 4-h kids, she was most upset about the 7" shanks it had.
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post #10 of 20 Old 06-19-2013, 11:28 PM
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honestly imo any bit can be a good tool or a harsh weapon depending on the person and how they use it. if the horse is happy and responsive in it and the rider isn't using it improperly I see no problems.

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