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    11-11-2012, 01:13 PM
  #11
Green Broke
I was 12 when I started breaking/training my granddad's Welsh/Morgans-----under his very strict guidance.

I was a BTA student but, by no means was I ready to be out training somebody else's horses.

Kids in that age bracket aren't mentally mature for all that responsiblity, I don't care how 13-going-on-30 they are. There's that thing called "Streetsmarts" that has to be earned and nobody at 13 has earned enough to be telling someone else what to do with their horse
     
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    11-11-2012, 01:38 PM
  #12
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by TheAQHAGirl    
Oh my gosh I'm not sure if its just the age or what...

We have some 4-H kids thinking they're suddenly horse trainers and they're trying to get clients and start a business, when yet they can't control their own horses.... *face palm*

What do you guys think? Is it the age or something else?

Its really something.
The bold part says it all.
I would not let a 13 year old take my horse and train it.. for love or money.. unless I was there and they had shown me some ability on THEIR horse.

I believe the way to nip this one in the bud is to talk to Mommy and Daddy about liability and what it will cost THEM if Dobbin gets hurt.. or talk to the person on whose land this happening and let them know their liability if a kid gets hurt (or killed).

If that does not work.. just let the insurance company covering the property know what is going on. That shoud "fix" the issue.
     
    11-11-2012, 01:51 PM
  #13
Showing
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Originally Posted by Elana    
The bold part says it all.
I would not let a 13 year old take my horse and train it.. for love or money.. unless I was there and they had shown me some ability on THEIR horse.
I agree with this. There are some young people who do have an affinity for training, especially those that work closely with a trainer but they aren't exactly common. IMHO, if they can't even control their own horses, then there is no chance of them being able to successfully train horses for others but sometimes that is something that they have to figure out for themselves.

I know a girl that is very similar to the kids you are describing. Just a few years ago, when she was around 12, her grandparents bought her a green broke 3 year old gelding to be her next show horse. Because they doted on her and praised her constantly about "what an amazing horseman she was and how talented she was and what a great rider she was and she could train a horse to do anything", she believed them.

Well, it didn't take long for that gelding to start having "problems" like bolting and bucking. Go figure, right? Anyway, grandparents brought the horse to my Dad for training and after a couple of months, he had the horse going extremely well. Nice and collected and slow at all 3 gaits, nice flat topline, soft mouth, good stop, proper lead departures, etc.

They came to pick the horse up and Dad had the girl get on the horse so that he could describe how he'd been riding the horse and how she would need to ride him to get the best behavior out of him and she snapped back with "I know how to ride my horse". So, Dad just stepped back and let her ride him her way.

That was in the early winter and that next fall, we saw her with that horse at a local 4-H show. She had him in training forks with a curb bit, he would bolt toward the gate every time they went past, he wouldn't pick up the correct lead, he was hollow and strung out and his stop was non-existent. I was disgusted by what I saw because I remembered what he looked like when he left Dad's house.

Unfortunately, there is just no cure for stupid and it's unlikely that you can do anything to stop them from training horses for others.

On a hopeful note though, perhaps they are just vocalizing on wishful thinking like most teenagers are wont to do. Saying that they are "going" to start training for others because that's what they want to do but they never actually get around to doing it, you know?
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    11-11-2012, 04:27 PM
  #14
Green Broke
My kids were all pretty good horse hands at that age. They rode whatever I had in for whatever reason. They started young (and not so young) horses.

But, we rode each other's projects and made suggestions and mine weren't expempt just because I'm the mom. And, they could all ride well and get things done on a horse before they were taking on ones for training or re-schooling.
     
    11-11-2012, 04:47 PM
  #15
Yearling
Not a chance on anyones life would I let a kid train my horses.

*rolls eyes* I find a lot of snotty kids whose heads are too big to fit through doorways are like that. They may be able to ride well, but I wouldn't put a great deal of money, or any at all on letting someone who lacks a lot of experience train any horse of mine. If I want the job done right I'll take my horses to someone who has had years of experience doing things right.

I wouldn't even call myself a trainer. Yes, I have experience starting young horses, restarting and rehabing horses. I'm also in the process of training my own two horses. But I have always had a coach in the arena guiding me. I still have two coaches who come out periodically to help me.

Whereas there are many kids out there who do have experience starting horses and have the ability to ride well, I wouldn't let a thirteen year old train my horses.
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    11-11-2012, 08:18 PM
  #16
Started
There is also a BIG difference between "wanting to learn" and "knowing it all". Sounds like the people here were in the first category.
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    11-11-2012, 08:27 PM
  #17
Green Broke
Dang... I just realized I was wrong. I don't know it all.. far from.. maybe they would hire me and teach ME! ;)
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    11-11-2012, 08:45 PM
  #18
Started
I'm 16.. I mean I've taught my horse tons of stuff
And I could give decent lessons for someone who wants to w/t/c and jump and a few other things.. but I'm nowhere NEAR experienced enough to be a trainer!!

Though I was told that if I really put my mind to it and I could get a foal and train it by myself (said by my trainer) that made me feel so awesome!! (I'd probably call her everyday with thousands of questions every day!)

Like a few others said, when kids are in school EVERYONE wins. No one's a loser and everyone is just as good as everyone else.
That's a serious problem!! You need to learn and work your BUTT off to get places!
I'd tell them that to be a trainer, you need to know tons of things! How to care for a horse, learn signs of illness and injury, have money too. Tons of others, but I don't think I need to be telling anyone how to be a trainer!! Hahah
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    11-12-2012, 06:36 AM
  #19
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Lexiie    
I'm 16.. I mean I've taught my horse tons of stuff
And I could give decent lessons for someone who wants to w/t/c and jump and a few other things.. but I'm nowhere NEAR experienced enough to be a trainer!!

Though I was told that if I really put my mind to it and I could get a foal and train it by myself (said by my trainer) that made me feel so awesome!! (I'd probably call her everyday with thousands of questions every day!)

Like a few others said, when kids are in school EVERYONE wins. No one's a loser and everyone is just as good as everyone else.
That's a serious problem!! You need to learn and work your BUTT off to get places!
I'd tell them that to be a trainer, you need to know tons of things! How to care for a horse, learn signs of illness and injury, have money too. Tons of others, but I don't think I need to be telling anyone how to be a trainer!! Hahah
Without learning how losing/failure feels one can never appreciate the feel of winning/succeeding.

This Lesson is best learned young.. best learned at home and in school where there is a support net work if you need it.. regardless.. it is best learned.

In real life outside of the protective environs of school we get to lose quite often all the way to the end. We can rise from those losses and use them as learning tools.. as an impetus to succeed.

Losses make hard won success ever so sweet.

Including training horses.
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    11-12-2012, 01:40 PM
  #20
Yearling
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Originally Posted by equinegirl26    
When I was 13 (14 now lol) my trainer hired me to break and train her horses.
I think if they are good enough, they should be able too....
That or they could kill them selves.
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