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post #21 of 29 Old 11-12-2012, 02:19 PM
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I've been wondering how to respond to this thread, as I don't want to lump a whole group into one 'catergory' just based on age.......HOWEVER at the age of 13, you have not had enough hands on experience with horses of ALL kinds and you have not also had to deal with a majority of hard to deal with issues that come along with horses. You also probably have not been to the school of hard knocks with horses and can really appreciate just how dangerous they can be. Saying this, the 12-16 year olds at our barn.....can be REALLY REALLY clueless when it comes to safety around horses.

When working with horses, exposure and experience is what makes a trainer....you need to have a plan A, B,C,D,E,F,G...and so on.....learning and knowing how to do something just one way makes you a trainer not.
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post #22 of 29 Old 11-12-2012, 02:27 PM
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I broke a pony on my own for the first time when I was 14 but I was surrounded by a horsey family - 3 generations - and had already worked with an uncle when he broke ponies so had plenty of back up and experience of riding youngsters and 'difficult' ponies.
I think the problem comes when the children think they are better than they are because they've been bought good ready made ponies or horses and think that they already know it all when theres no way you can.
I personally dont think its a good idea for a child of this age to be doing it as a stand alone business without supervision from a (really) qualified person
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by 13 i was pretty good with horses and definitely held my own with a difficult horse. I usually rode or worked with friends horses if they had a problem or were not feeling confident about something.
but i still have no idea where all this "im a professional trainer" business comes from when it comes to so many people these days (Not even just teenagers). I wouldnt dream of calling myself a trainer, even today as i try to learn everything possible about all types of training methods and attend clinics.

As an adult, i study horse training much more than i did as a kid and i get the feeling a lot of these 13 year olds that are currently training for clients havent yet done a ton of research either. Many of them have probably done decent under one trainer and have decided that they know everything they need to know. I cant help but get the impression of arrogance.

i have no problem admitting that some young kids are better with horses than i'll ever be, but i think people need to get back to recognizing trainers as people with experience, significant accomplishments, and talent. Rather than people who just meet the basic requirements for horse handling.
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I "trained" a horse at 12 years old. I say "trained" because she was a barely broke quarter pony that had had a person on her back twice when I started with her. My TB mare was injured and (at our cowboy barn) the owner had the quarter pony and he was too big to ride her so I got to ride while my mare healed and he got his pony worked with.
"Training" entailed desensitization and lots of trail rides. She learned to hack out alone and in company. We jumped a little bit but she was only three so we didn't too much or too big.
It wasn't anything professional by a long-shot, but I was responsible enough and the owner trusted my judgement.
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post #25 of 29 Old 11-13-2012, 03:11 AM
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I didn't read all of the comments but I wanted to say that where I am from there are a lot of kid 'trainers' but they are 99.9% of the time supervised by an adult with training experience.

It's great they have goals and dreams :) Something to keep them out of trouble and motivated... But...

Keyword is Supervision: Horses can be dangerous if handled wrong, and even in the least expected situations. Accidents happen. We all know horses get hurt like kids, dunno how, but they manage it... Place the 2 together and not the best idea.

With a professional to help them, I would encourage it, but not alone.
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post #26 of 29 Old 11-13-2012, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by TheAQHAGirl
Oh my gosh I'm not sure if its just the age or what...

We have some 4-H kids thinking they're suddenly horse trainers and they're trying to get clients and start a business, when yet they can't control their own horses.... *face palm*

What do you guys think? Is it the age or something else?
Its really something.
The bold part says it all.
I would not let a 13 year old take my horse and train it.. for love or money.. unless I was there and they had shown me some ability on THEIR horse.

I believe the way to nip this one in the bud is to talk to Mommy and Daddy about liability and what it will cost THEM if Dobbin gets hurt.. or talk to the person on whose land this happening and let them know their liability if a kid gets hurt (or killed).

If that does not work.. just let the insurance company covering the property know what is going on. That shoud "fix" the issue.
I agree with the above.

What's up with all the people supporting (or at least deciding not to generalize based on age) this? I remember back when we were deciding if people under fifteen were mature enough to post substantive posts.

Now thirteen year olds are mature enough to train horses?

I know some kids are really good with horses and may be mature enough to take on the responsibility.

However, this is in the minority! Not everyone can be "not the average thirteen year old".
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At 13 I would have felt on top of the world to have someone enlist my services as a trainer. However over a decade later, I look back at my attitude then and thank God I had responsible adults looking out for me. Many of us thought we were "no ordinary 13 year old", some of us successfully trained horses, some of us were not given that level of freedom, and some of us are not here today because an adult mistook confidence for competence. I would never hire a trainer that young, period. If I hire a trainer that has a young helper, great, but the adult is getting the paycheck, and I expect an adult to be calling the shots and to be the one taking on the major risk that comes with training.
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post #28 of 29 Old 11-13-2012, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Lexiie View Post

Like a few others said, when kids are in school EVERYONE wins. No one's a loser and everyone is just as good as everyone else.
That's a serious problem!! You need to learn and work your BUTT off to get places!

I think you hit the nail on the head there. I am old so I am sure there are tons of teenagers rolling their eyes when reading my posts. Things were different in the past. In the past, not everybody won. Many/most lost, they worked hard to get ahead or to win. They started at the bottom and worked their way up.

At 13 years old, you didn't work to buy your horse, pay trainers to teach you or pay trainers to train your horse. Your parents did. In my youth I broke a lot of horses, rode a lot of show horses, won a lot of ribbons/trophies but I was not a trainer. I never considered myself a trainer and though I trained many horses, I considered myself a student. There are always people who know more then you.

The only 13 year old that I would consider allowing to work with my critters would be one that was humble enough to know they were just starting out and only knew the equivalent of a drop in the bucket of knowledge. The truth is, we all start at the bottom there, no matter how big our ego is. Anyone who thinks they know more then a professional trainer with years of experience, when they are 13, is just dangerous.

No matter how hard you work, no matter how many horses you have been blessed to deal with, you simply do not have the life experience yet at 13 to know it all. The smart ones keep their mouths shut and their ears open and keep working to learn. At 44 years old, I am still a drop in the bucket of knowledge and I expect I still will be when I am 100. There is so much to know, you can't know it all when you are so young.
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No way, no how. Hell I am still untangling the mess made by a former pony clubber and an equine studies major made of my horse. There an argument for good trainers being born not made; however, you need a few knocks to figure out if you are good. At 13 you probably don't have enough knocks. Its easy to train one horse well (your own) but its a whole different thing to train a few horses (other people's horses) well.
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