2nd time lunging/join up

As I said before this is the second time trying to lunge or join up, I didn't have a whip or very long rope so I just used the halter. Im proud that I didnt get kicked in the face ahah lol na my horse has never done any thing like that.
1 Question: how do you get the horse to get further out in the circle without making them go faster, as when I put the lead rope out he thought to go faster, but did go a bit towards the perimeter. Should I teach a voice command for getting the horse to go further towards the perimeter of the round yard ? Would I just move towards the horse(pressure) to make them go towards the perimeter... anyways I am just trying to do this with out any ones help, but I will get help from some one that knows how to lunge in the future !
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Ok so first of all make your life easier get yourself a lunge whip. That's a big round pen you need something to extend your arm and get his attention. Look at your horse and where his attention is notice it isn't on you it outside the round pen. A lot of the time he is looking for a place to graze or a place to get out if there. When you want to move your horse outward with your whip you can point it at his shoulder or hip and invade his space some to push/drive him out. Only take away pressure when he is in the proper space and speed when he archives that lower your whip and only raise it again its needed. I think your next lunge session will go much better if you have a nice lunge whip to accompany you that way you can make much easier corrections. And get your horses attention. Once you get going good with a whip you can lunge with you arm and voice cues. I do it all the time but I keep a whip with me just in case but I had to teach those things with the lunge whip first.
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Oh and I forgot to mention a couple of times there towards the end of your video he switched directions back and forth it appeared to be because of your body position and body language he wasn't sure what direction you wanted. And your join up isnt bad though you need to get him closer to you and invite him in more. I don't do join up that way so I'm not entirely sure how to make that way better for you. Here is a video of me playing join up with my colts. It's not in a round pen but I do the same when I lunge. Of you wanna try this way make sure to not make direct eye contact you angle your shoulder towards their face/nose and use you shoulder and lowered hand to invite them in. So it's not a great video I took it with my cell phone that I laid on my gate. Maybe there's something you can make use of. Keep practicing you'll get the hang of it

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Thank you very much, I def need a lunge whip to use. Your posts where clear and easy to understand. I will keep practicing and teach a command signal for him to move outwards with the lunge whip, and than with my hand. He has anxietys with leaving other horses so the first time I lunged him he just kept trying to get back to his buddy, but he is trusting me more so his thinking I'm his buddy to. It should be easier to lunge when I get the hang of it and when we develop more of a bond :) thanks for replying .

I think you have a basic idea and I saw you incorporate hand signals a bit. Keep filming yourself and watching it will help you improve your body language which will help in maintaining good body language and communication with your horse. Also remember not to lunge for long periods of time lot of circles can injure thier joints
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Is 10 minutes alright to lunge for ? I only did it for 10 minutes last time

Yeah ten minutes is like the recommended max to many trainers. Myself included.
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I might lunge today, as I am waiting a reply from the farrier so I don't want to ride him that much. I will video my lunging but sadly my Internet for the computer stopped working this morning and ATM I am on my uncles iPad I stole while they went out. I'm going to make a post on what ground work I can do instead of riding.

You can make a lunge whip out of a long stick and tie a plastic bag to the end if you don't have anything. Key is wanting his attention on you. Make sure he is ok with the bag on the stick or whatever else you use so you don't end up chasing him scared to death. Your tools are to be used as an extension of your arm, not to freak him out or punish with. Pressure, including pointing, is always on when he is not paying attention or doing what you ask. Pressure is always released, as his reward, when he is doing what you ask. Watch your body language....he will learn it very well, so be consistent and accurate. Keep your belly pointed at his shoulder when asking for forward movement. Point your tool at his shoulder to move him out and toward his rear when asking forward.