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post #1 of 21 Old 03-31-2011, 09:16 AM Thread Starter
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30 day training question(s)

You see ads with horses having 30 days in training. How much time is actually involved? Is 30 days like 5 days a week for 6 weeks? Or is just saying that the horse had a month of training? How many hours each day is the horse trained? Say a horse is only worked for an hour or two on one day, does that count as a day in training?

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post #2 of 21 Old 03-31-2011, 09:28 AM
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It really depends on the trainer, from what I've seen a horse that's advertised as having 30 days in training means just that.. not that it has been ridden for 30days. and then length of the day can vary from trainer to trainer to. I try to make sure that when I ride a horse a day counts at the very least 2 hrs. unless it's the 1st time I've saddled and rode it. I'll build up the time starting at 5 to 15 minutes depending on the horse, because you don't want to overload them and confuse them. As they learn what is expected of them you can take them out longer. When horse's I've trained have had 30 days of "training" they normally have 15 to 20 days of actual riding. I make sure the ground work is down pat, and that they respect and trust me before I climb aboard. then I do several short works a day in a roundpen or small pasture to make sure I have control if something should go wrong then I go put hours on them,
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When I was thinking to put my horses in 30 days training (never happened anyway ) I was visiting 3 or 4 barns. I was told by every trainer they work/ride horse 5 days/week. Personally I think 30 days is good just to put some miles or address a problem. I don't think it's enough actually to train the horse.

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As said before it really depends on the trainer. Based on my experience and what I know about the trainers in my area, 30 days usually means the horse is broke to ride & give to the bit, but not much else.

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Personally I think 30 days is good just to put some miles or address a problem. I don't think it's enough actually to train the horse.
Sadly I know of quite a few people who think that is the same thing. The horse can run and they can pull it around to stop. Therefore it can go up for sale as a trained horse. I even know of one guy who put 30 days on an untouched horse and at the end of it put a toddler up on it to make a sale. But I guess if you're new to horses that just seems like an amazing horse. I did hear that after a week of chilling out in their pasture it went a little crazy. Maybe got some energy back?

I take 30 days training with a huge grain of salt because of these certain guys. But when I sent my mare out to training (60 days) the first half they just worked on proper turns, leg yields and stops at w/t. Never really worked the lope until about 40 days in. They worked her 5 times a week, sometimes on Saturdays if the horse was listening good enough to be allowed to play with cows. And they didn't seem like they liked to compress it anymore than that.
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It also depends on the horse. Some horses get mentally fried more easily than others and a good trainer will figure this out and work at the pace that works for the horse.
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Always behind is spot on about working at the pace for that individual horse. There are those that do get mentally fried faster and need to be taught slow & easy and there are others that thrive when challenged constantly.

Depends completely on individual trainer and horse, like almost everything horse it's always an individuals assessment not a generalized standard. I will say that 30 days does not make a broke horse. I look at the first 30 as laying a foundation to build on, kinda like pre-school, giving them the concepts that they will need to be successful when they do start real schooling. I personally don't like to take horses for just 30 days and rarely do. I will take them in for just 30 days if they have had the groundwork & basics leading up to riding under their belt & going into competent hands for finishing or if it's a tune-up on a finished horse. If it's a barely halter broke, completely green horse I prefer not to. Simply because there is so much that needs to be done on the ground before that first ride and owners get frustrated when you aren't on their horse straight away.

That being said with my own personal horses & those that have the ground work under their belt - at the end of the first 30 days I expect them to stand quiet to mount/dismount, flex and bend, begin to understand and respond to leg pressure & yielding, be "on" the bit, give me their nose, full understanding of whoa, one rein stops & back a few steps quietly. Everything has to be mastered at the walk before we trot and at the trot before we lope. Most of them at the end of 30 days here are ready to go out for a trail ride (something I do myself with all trainees before sending them home) but are generally nowhere near showpen ready.

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It also depends on the horse. Some horses get mentally fried more easily than others and a good trainer will figure this out and work at the pace that works for the horse.
Mentally and physically. Depending on what shape the horse is when it starts training, it may not be able to handle the 30 days all in a row. It's the responsibility of the owner to be up front with the trainer for expectations. I also expect the owner to particpate in the training. Even if it's just watching a session a week. I WANT them to see the progress and ask questions.
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When I was thinking to put my horses in 30 days training (never happened anyway ) I was visiting 3 or 4 barns. I was told by every trainer they work/ride horse 5 days/week. Personally I think 30 days is good just to put some miles or address a problem. I don't think it's enough actually to train the horse.
I agree 30 days isn't enough to actually get a horse good broke. Problems will arise after the 30th day or several weeks of riding. All of the horses I break know their ground manner well. ORS, give to the bit move off ppressure.All the things nessary to have a fairly safe ride in a confined area. Alot of my training I do on the trail. I find that the horse tends to listen better and not fight me as much. Granted I make sure he is listening before we head out. If he isn't listening then we don't go. we work in the areana or do more ground work and figure out why he isn't listening.
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