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post #1 of 25 Old 06-24-2014, 08:07 PM Thread Starter
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4-Part Video Series: How to Cure Herd Boudness and Barn/Buddy Sourness

What's up good people! So as I'm looking around the forum on a daily basis I'm always noticing that certain kinds of questions come up again and again. So I scrolled through about 20 pages of the training section and made note of how many times certain questions would occur in one form or another, then decided to make some videos on these subjects and help some people out if I can!

One of the most common questions by a wide margin is this question of what to do with horses that are herd-bound, buddy sour, whatever you want to call it. Simply put, the condition of having horses that would rather be with other horses than out with you on a trail ride. Their mind flies away from you, they run back to the barn, or they spook 10' sideways out from under you. They trumpet and call for the other horses. In milder forms, they might just cut a circle short on one side and long on the other to be nearer to their friends. The results range from frustrating at best to dangerous at worst.

So what do you do?

That's what I hope to give you some ideas about in these videos. I'll begin by riding a mare who hasn't been ridden in a couple weeks, and is inclined to be herd-bound anyway. She's naturally a little stare-y going outside alone so she's a good one to demonstrate this on. On top of that, it's a windy day with dust devils blowing by and other horses running around loose. She's kind of spooky and reactive at first but settles down by the end of the ride. The next day she's even better.

The videos are a little long, but I've annotated them to keep the story moving along a little better. The basic gist of what I'm doing in them is this:

1. Allowing my horse to get her energy up and run back to the other horses if she wants to.
2. Using the energy in her body which comes from that desire to follow the others to direct her feet in various maneuvers, continually engaging her attention on what I'm doing. Gradually she tunes everything else out.
3. Offering her a place to rest and dial her energy back down when she's away from her friends.

I'm putting these up here to help anyone who may be interested, and also to invite some honest real-world feedback! I'm continually thinking of ways to improve what I'm doing and make better and more useful videos. I invite you to check them out, leave a comment, ask a question, or tell me that I suck. Don't hold back!

Part 1/4: Herd-Bound Ride
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYsEcBGpvVs

Part 2/4: Flagging Horses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opk-ZsHwZ0k

Part 3/4: Centering (finding the center)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIkiH9Ev430

Part 4/4: The Second Day - Making Improvement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd_DubyyolE
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post #2 of 25 Old 06-24-2014, 09:40 PM
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oh boy! Ian videos!
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oh boy! Ian videos!
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not true.


I just need some time to look at them.
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not true.


I just need some time to look at them.
No doubt. They are kinda long!

I'm just being facetious anyway lol. It doesn't really matter whether these things are received with great amounts of praise or a chorus of crickets. Fame is fleeting and matters little compared to the act of doing the work itself!
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watching the videos now, even though i don't exactly understand what is going on
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watching the videos now, even though i don't exactly understand what is going on
Hey jmike, thanks for taking the time to watch I appreciate it! If there's anything I can do to help or answer any questions I'm happy to do it. It hadn't occurred to me that some of it might be unclear. It may make more sense to people who follow this particular kind of style already, but maybe not to everyone in the general horse-owning public.

That's actually great feedback, thank you.
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I liked the videos but I can't see as well as I use to so I have to stop it to read.

That makes them extra long, it would help if you could do voice over to explain what you are doing.
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I liked the videos but I can't see as well as I use to so I have to stop it to read.

That makes them extra long, it would help if you could do voice over to explain what you are doing.
You know I believe you're right. I think that this has to be the next step in the evolution of this venture.
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Also, perhaps a bit more explaining why you are doing what you are doing. I am not always clear which part of the arena is the "the right thing is easy" and which part is the "the wrong thing hard". or, if that is what you are trying to do in dealing with a herd bound horse.
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