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post #21 of 31 Old 02-25-2009, 12:54 PM Thread Starter
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I know what your talkin about Dumas' Girl, and I am not gonna run out and buy all his videos. However, if parelli can help me communicate better with my horse then i will apply his methods. If another trainer like John lyon and his methods work best when in the saddle, then I will apply his methods.. I quess what i am tryin to say is that, I am not gonna JUST use parelli's methods. I am still gonna be open

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Thank you everyone for your advice and comments but I don't want this topic to become a debate and argue. I am just simply expressing how well my horse responded.

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post #22 of 31 Old 02-25-2009, 12:55 PM
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But if it's working why change it?

And no games? Talk about a boring life for the horse.

I'm not going to turn this thread into a debate but I will respond to your question:

Because at some point there will be an issue, there always is... with ANY horse. The general parelli response is: if it's not working, you are doing it wrong. The bottom line is, when things stop working, or don't work, then it's time to do something different. As long as people keep their minds OPEN then they can continue to progress.

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I know what your talkin about Dumas' Girl, and I am not gonna run out and buy all his videos. However, if parelli can help me communicate better with my horse then i will apply his methods. If another trainer like John lyon and his methods work best when in the saddle, then I will apply his methods.. I quess what i am tryin to say is that, I am not gonna JUST use parelli's methods. I am still gonna be open

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Thank you everyone for your advice and comments but I don't want this topic to become a debate and argue. I am just simply expressing how well my horse responded.

I agree I want to keep this thread open so we can hear all about NANA!!!!

(BTW- I really like John Lyons in the saddle and he's got a neat NSEW (north,south,east,west) "game" Basically it's another move your feet game with the horse and he describes it as flying and landing like an airplane. If you are interested PM me and I'll get you the title of the book and maybe even give you an excerpt. )

Be strong and courageous, and do the work. Don't be afraid or discouraged by the size of the task, for the Lord God, my God, is with you. He will not fail you or forsake you.

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...I'm interested...

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Hmm, interesting farmpony....I've not had one issue with my warmblood since I got him almost a year ago. And he came to me labeled a biter, kicker, man hater and was said to be dangerous, vicious and unpredictable. Every issue he has had is now no longer thanks to Parelli....and I have not once even thought about moving on to someone else's methods.....because I have not had one problem, and I never will because Parelli works.

All work and no play makes for an unhappy horse. If the horse is bored, etc. that is NOT disrespect, he's just bored, and it's the person's fault. My horse is never bored with me b/c Parelli gives me ideas to play with and it's opened up my imagination a lot more (something that was previously blocked off lol). And the 7 Games ARE actual games....they are dominance games that horses play with each other.....horses aren't out in the herd "training" each other...it's just a big game to them, and they have fun doing it.
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Hmm, interesting farmpony....I've not had one issue with my warmblood since I got him almost a year ago. And he came to me labeled a biter, kicker, man hater and was said to be dangerous, vicious and unpredictable. Every issue he has had is now no longer thanks to Parelli....and I have not once even thought about moving on to someone else's methods.....because I have not had one problem, and I never will because Parelli works.
I need to respond here.

I have a newer boarder who has only done and only believes in Parelli methods for her horse. Has owned the horse for many years (12) and been through many boarding stables as the horse was labeled dangerous to handlers and other horses. Less than ONE month at my barn and the owner is floored by her well mannered horse and how much he respects me.

Can you explain that one?

I can - not every horse responds to ONE method of training. They do respond to what works for them. This particular horse needs a leader. He sees me as that leader.
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Yes, I can explain that one. There could be many factors playing into this situation. 1) the horse and human are not a good match--if he is the dominant type and she is a passive type, for example. 2) She is not applying the program correctly (which does happen because people sometimes put their own weird spin on things....not good examples of the program by any means), or 3) this horse is too "extreme" for her to handle and she is out of her depth, which kinda goes with #1. Simply because someone "only believes" in Parelli, as you said, does not mean they are a good example of the program. For example, I know some people who live in Illinois and they only do Parelli and they have the potential to be excellent examples of the program BUT basically they are crazy. Weird and wacky spins on things, they think they are Instructors and make people feel like failures and their horses look like robots or they are not confident. Yet they go around showing people what Parelli is (but they aren't really showing what it is) and that bugs me to the point where I don't associate with them. I can't stand them quite honestly. I played with one of their horses before, a supossed Level 3 horse, and he couldn't even stand me swinging the stick around! I mean come on, that should have been taken care of from the very beginning. They're just crazy.

Ok that kind of went into a little bit of a rant, sorry lol. But it holds a valid point.
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Ok that kind of went into a little bit of a rant, sorry lol. But it holds a valid point.
You actually proved my point. It does not work for every horse or every person.
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I'll agee with you on half of that. It doesn't work for every person. That's very true.

However, my point with my rant was that these people were NOT following the program right, so their horses seemed to "not be working in the program." If someone who knew what they were doing were working with the horses they wouldn't be acting like robots or acting unconfident. The people caused their horses to act that way...it's a direct result of how the people are working with the horse, not about the program itself.
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I'm going to lock this thread because it has left the op's topic in the dust.

If we need to discuss Parelli again let's start a new thread. Brandon's journey with Nana is what this is supposed to be about.

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