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        03-14-2013, 11:22 PM
      #21
    Weanling
    I agree with Sky. I hit that point with Topaz not too long ago and then some one at my barn did something stupid and triggered all his fears again.

    Take it slow, build the bond and the trust.
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        03-15-2013, 12:29 AM
      #22
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by MillieSantana    
    Well, she was treated badly. IF she was ridden at all, she was jabbed with sttirrups, and most likley chased in one way or another, but this horse has not had it well.
    o.O Jabbed with stirrups and chased? That doesn't sound too bad lol
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        03-15-2013, 07:25 PM
      #23
    Foal
    Chased with a 4-wheeler, most likley. That's ok, Taffee, you can have your opinion, I can have mine, you'd have to meet her to really get it.

    Ok, I'll watch for that point, thanks.
         
        03-15-2013, 09:05 PM
      #24
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by MillieSantana    
    Chased with a 4-wheeler, most likley.
    A friend's non-horsey brother saw us playing chasey with our horses one day & thought it looked fun. So he brought his trailbike & chased them on that! Not exactly the same kind of game & it took us a while to get the horses desensitised to motorbikes after that! But it didn't rub off on anything else. Horses are very good at being particular about specifics. Eg. If your horse was chased by a 4 wheeler, I'd expect she would have a prob with 4 wheelers or motorbikes, but not a general problem with life or people in the least.

    I'm curious what exactly you mean by 'jabbed with stirrups' & why you think this, when you don't know whether she was ever ridden at all?
         
        03-15-2013, 11:41 PM
      #25
    Foal
    Being kicked with sttirrups, very hard. She's very over-sensitive where your heel would fall on her barrel. Well, the owner is older, has recently had joints replaced, etc, so he sent his horse to this farm where this man was going to ride his horse while he couldn't. We think that's where wahtever happened happened. We're not sure if sure if she was ridden, but we think so, because one day when he went out there, he was leading the horse with a VERY severe bit.
         
        03-17-2013, 11:45 AM
      #26
    Foal
    Ok, yesterday, she got a bath. Did pretty good, too. The horse moving on the ground spooked her, and she doesn't like her back legs sprayed, but she pretty good.
         
        03-24-2013, 06:41 PM
      #27
    Foal
    We did a lot this weekend. I've started putting jumps in the round pen, to make her pick her feet up(nothing big, 2'3 at most, and the round pen is huge) and at first she didn't want to pick her feet up, which I can understand. But now it's part of our routine and she's doing good. Today I set up a 1/2 bounce(she only had about a stride in between) trying to teach her to collect, at fisrt she was a little scared of the setup, but then she aced it. I also got n her today. We've been on her, laying on my belly, but today I swung my leg over. She acted like an agel, to jittering, bucking, rearing, NOTHING. So we walked her around in some small cirlces and she was soo good. After that she got a bath. She moved around a bit, but nothing magor.
    Forgot, last week we didn't soap her, just sprayed her.
         
        03-24-2013, 07:04 PM
      #28
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by MillieSantana    
    Being kicked with sttirrups, very hard. She's very over-sensitive where your heel would fall on her barrel.
    Stirrups or spurs? Spurs would make more sense since I could use the full force of my bare boot on many, if not most horses and never do permanent psychological or physical damage. Also if she's a reactive horse to begin with, that's a pretty sensitive area naturally anyway.

    Being hard to catch doesn't necessarily mean abuse, either. It sometimes means they've wised up to the fact that being caught means work. My little buttface, who is normally quite easy to catch, did this to me the other day. I've had lesson horses do this on a much more regular basis, too. I can safely say that it wasn't because they were "abused", they just thought their idea was better.

    Now, I don't know this horse, so I'm not going to say for sure whether she was or wasn't abused, but from what's been said your definition and the definition that a lot of others here have set in mind sound pretty distant.

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    Originally Posted by MillieSantana    
    We did a lot this weekend. I've started putting jumps in the round pen, to make her pick her feet up(nothing big, 2'3 at most, and the round pen is huge
    2'3" is small for a horse who may never have been over a ground pole???
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        03-24-2013, 07:06 PM
      #29
    Showing
    Why are you trying to get her to collect?
         
        03-25-2013, 05:57 PM
      #30
    Foal
    Spurs, sorry. And I'm not saying anymore on whether or not she was abused, you may have your opinion, I may have mine.

    Yes, she's been over ground poles, and she does very well with that height, I f it gets to low she decides to be lazy and just trip over them. She's an amazing jumper, with good form and judgement. We're trying to teach her to collect because right now her stride is super long, and she doesn't adjust her canter before jumps, and after she got the hang of the 1/2 bounce she started regulating her canter a bit more to make the jump. (It wasn't high, 1'2 at the highest point)

    Thanks for your opinions, but this mare is really doing well, and several experienced horsemen are working with me, and we all agree on this.
         

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