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        04-21-2013, 07:24 AM
      #51
    Foal
    Obviosuly you are keen to do well with your horse and that is very nice :)
    Of course a sad look can also just be a badly caught moment, but sometimes it can be due to some underlying reason of stress - can be many things. Sometimes there is stress in the herd without we notice it - some bully making trouble for those who are not that strong mentally - I think it is extremely important to match the horses which are on pasture together, because we don't give them the possibility to choose for themselves whom to be with.

    It can also be a working issue (I don't say it is any of these things with your horse - please don't misunderstand - I just want to give you ideas to look deeper at her so to speak :)) - I am a keen follower of Klaus Hempflings principles and he says that a horse should never do hard work for longer periods without pauses in between - and hard work is for example lunging, because moving on a small circle is hard for both muscles, joints and bones. He advices never to exceed 10-15 minutes of real lunging without making a pause of at least the same length of time. You can do it many times a day, but the horse needs pauses.

    The usual dressage/jumping training where the horses are worked in trot and canter for hours is very bad for them - that is also the reason why for a dressage/jumping horse the average age of death is very low - they are finished when they are 10!!! In contrast to this in former times the classical way of training a horse startet earliest in the age 4-5 years, when the horse was fully grown, and the horse was not considered educated until it was perhaps 10-12 years old - and then it would live a long life as a well trained riding horse (25-30 years) - those times are long gone unfortunately :(.

    There could also be an energy issue - for example to little energy in the food she is fed - it is very important to horses to have oats - even little fat ponies should have just a tiny amount every day, because it gives them a good energy.

    Most horses like it very much to have their own stall in the night time, or at least to share the night space only with horses they feel really comfortable with - in open stables there is often some underlying stress which is unnoticed.

    What also could be the case with you mare us that she still has the previous abuse inside her and that she could be a bit sad becaue of that still - but that will disappear for sure with the right handling and you certainly try to do your best.

    Anyway - with all you have explained, I still feel it would not be so bad to slow down things a little - just to make sure there is no pressure.And you will fell it if she misses the work, because then she will show you that she wants to do thing. On the other hand if she just enjoys simply being calmly with you she might also need just that sometimes in between - you could take some walks, or just sit by her - whatever - it does not mean you cannot do things with her - just adjust the workload a bit.

    Whish you good luck with your beauty - looking forward to seing some more pictures of her!
    All the best to both of you...
         
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        04-21-2013, 07:58 AM
      #52
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by dknatura    

    The usual dressage/jumping training where the horses are worked in trot and canter for hours is very bad for them - that is also the reason why for a dressage/jumping horse the average age of death is very low - they are finished when they are 10!!! In contrast to this in former times the classical way of training a horse startet earliest in the age 4-5 years, when the horse was fully grown, and the horse was not considered educated until it was perhaps 10-12 years old - and then it would live a long life as a well trained riding horse (25-30 years) - those times are long gone unfortunately :(.
    Really? We have two horses at our barn that were shown nationally in dressage....they are now 37 and 40.

    Just because it's dressage doesn't mean they die young. On the flip side, how long do you think racers live? Or high level jumpers? High level anything puts extreme stress on a horses body, not just dressage.

    Mini rant over

    It's amazing you are making this much progress this fast, but you have to make sure you dont' create any gaps. Maybe it is best to wait on riding untill you can get a saddle on her, because you have to teach her she can't throw you if she doesn't like what you're doing.
         
        04-21-2013, 07:16 PM
      #53
    Foal
    I didn't see any of this until just now, sorry. But anyways, this weekend-

    We started with the trailer. She did really well. What we did is we led her up to the trailer, I stepped in, and then put a little pressure on her to check out the trailer. When she stuck her head in, she got a treat(mini carrots) and we stretched her neck farther and farther, and she didn't get the treat unless she took it off the floor. We haven't got her to put a foot up yet. She's not sure, but she's interested. If she decided she had had enough for a bit, we backed her away, let her take it in, then did a bit of lunging, then re-approached the trailer. She's not scared of the trailer, but putting her feet up are going to a major thing(for obvious reasons, of course)

    We also took her on a walk. I led the way with Millie, and her owner came behind with her. We walked down the road, across a ditch, into the woods, rode the trail, came back. We saw 3 cars. The first one she sidestepped a bit and looked. The other times she stood calmly. She never spooked, and was relaxed. She was looking around, I think she enjoyed it. Millie fell asleep practically. (All this time we led them, no tack, just halters/leadropes)

    And we can put a saddle on her. She doesn't care about the saddle. The only we ever have trouble with is leg pressure on her, but we work on it from the ground.
         
        07-19-2013, 05:11 PM
      #54
    Foal
    Hey guys! It's been forever and day since I posted! Well, she got about two months off, and just this week we started over. I'm not quite sure what happened(mybe she wasn't quite ready last time) but she is doing great! We've been doing ground work, and riding! She stands for saddling, takes a bit, and doesn't spook! She accepts leg pressure too! The only thing she's having trouble with is backing, but it's a work in progress. I have some pics and videos to share too! Those are in the next post(it may be awhile, gotta go eat dinner).
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        07-19-2013, 08:58 PM
      #55
    Foal
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    Ok, so the pics!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNYsya2pN9E Here is a video of her jumping.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUfaUGAjGBw Riding- Includes one turn!

    - Mash up video of pictures. She's looking so much better!
         

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