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        01-25-2011, 12:56 PM
      #11
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by horsplay    
    The fact that he is a stallion means NOTHING.
    I can't say I agree with this 100%, but I do partially. Working with studs IS a bit different than a mare or gelding, specifically if you haven't been the one to train them from birth. Not to say that you let them get away with things or make allowances for him screaming his head off at the mares and dancing because "He's just being a stallion", couldn't be farther from the case. The main difference, at least IME, is that you have to be even more firm with a stud. You can't let them get away with ANYTHING. All horses have the potential to be as monstrous as the most rank stud around, but a gelding/mare doesn't have the testosterone induced drive a stud has.
         
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        01-25-2011, 02:12 PM
      #12
    Foal
    Additional advice on Appy's. When pressured or confined, "many" (I haven't seen one that didn't) Appy's will move forward INTO pressure. According to a farrier I've worked with, this is common amoung Appys. For example, when holding for farrier, she will go up and forward when fighting him, NOT go back like most.

    The old joke is Native Americans used Appys for war horses because they were so angry from working them they sent them to war. (I love them).
         
        01-25-2011, 04:56 PM
      #13
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by CanyonCowboy    
    (I love them).
    I do too. They've always been my favorite horses. They're so intelligent and I think their coat patterns are just gorgeous <3
         
        01-25-2011, 06:13 PM
      #14
    Foal
    First I want to congratulate you on your new horse!He's a lovely color!

    I will first agree with the previous statements of assuming he was abused just by his attitude.I have had to work with many horses that were biters,etc and they had no abusive history,it was a lack of respect to the handlers,because the handlers never gave them proper discipline for biting,charging on the lead or kicking.And again,i agree with another poster on the fact you have to get right on that horse when he bites or kicks,the sooner the better as you want to interrupt that thought right away,How ever this doesn't mean beating the tar outta the horse.A firm slap to the muzzle if he even as much as motions biting should be a good wake up call.But I saw a comment posted by you that said it was confirmed to you he has an abusive history,so sorry about the useless banter :P Also wanted to add good on ya for rescuing a horse forgot to mention that.

    I would suggest lots and lots of ground work to get it established with him your his boss.I would also suggest reteaching him to give to pressure as it will come in handy(well actually necessary XD) when you finally decide to work him under saddle.
         
        01-25-2011, 07:01 PM
      #15
    Foal
    Its not that he is a biter- he actually is a very sweet, loving horse and I've only seen him try to nip once. He just seems to have an attitude towards men. He came right up to me when I came to his stall and let me rub his nose and everything, but when my boyfriend came by, Chief backed up and his ears just went flat back against his head- and this is apparently normal behavior for him to become agitated when a man comes by. His first owner- the one he had bitten- was a man- and that was why Chief was dumped in the first place.
         
        01-25-2011, 11:03 PM
      #16
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by irishbutterfly    
    its not that he is a biter- he actually is a very sweet, loving horse and I've only seen him try to nip once. He just seems to have an attitude towards men. He came right up to me when I came to his stall and let me rub his nose and everything, but when my boyfriend came by, Chief backed up and his ears just went flat back against his head- and this is apparently normal behavior for him to become agitated when a man comes by. His first owner- the one he had bitten- was a man- and that was why Chief was dumped in the first place.
    Ahhhh okay I see,I can relate.My old gelding hated men too,but loved women XD
         
        01-26-2011, 09:50 AM
      #17
    Green Broke
    A key thing that you might want to spend ALOT of time on is just simple ground work. Horses that I've worked with will gain more confidence with you on the ground at first. It shows them that you are the boss but you are also not a threat. Try lounging him alot and asking him to do simple things that he can do and just build harder things on top of that to let him be more confident about himself and you..just repition and slow work should help alot..I can't stand the biting though, I agree with everyone about coming down on him right when he does it or looks like he is thinking about it..I wouldn't completely bring him away from men though?? Maybe with a little time or if your boyfriend could try to just stay at a distance to show that he isn't a threat but he isn't going to back down either, as time goes by he might get used to him and eventaully win him over with treats and a little love? I'm not an expert on the man thing but it's what I would try..Good Luck with all of it though and I hope it works out well!
         
        01-26-2011, 10:06 AM
      #18
    Foal
    The men thing is another thing I was planning on working on. I was thinking of just having my boyfriend come around from time to time, like when im grooming or doing ground work, like have him in the background, slowly but surely coming closer or by bringing him treats or praise(if he is good, that is) so Chief associates my boyfriend(or any other man) with good things instead of bad
         
        01-26-2011, 11:15 AM
      #19
    Foal
    It sounds like you have good ideas and a good start ahead of you I wish you tons of luck and I know your going to have a great friend in that horse. As for what color he'd look good in..... I think he's look good in a dark green.
         
        01-26-2011, 11:42 AM
      #20
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by horsplay    
    It sounds like you have good ideas and a good start ahead of you I wish you tons of luck and I know your going to have a great friend in that horse. As for what color he'd look good in..... I think he's look good in a dark green.
    Thank you!

    I also agree on dark/Hunter green.. I kinda went on a little shopping spree for him.. green halter.. green saddle pad.. splint boots... ya kno
         

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