Originally Posted by SonnyWimps
sounds to me like it's mostly dominance....try doing alot more groundwork teaching him to listen, to move over on command, and so on.
lol we do so much groundwork its not even funny
sandy - thank you for your concern. im on extra high alert now and am getting very good at dodging stuff :) the thing is i dont have a problem with what to do its more the fact that he just isnt listening. as you said, he isnt going to give up without a fight :roll:
he doesnt scare me. sometimes i am intimidated but i know the side of him that is sweet and loving. thats him in my avatar. at that moment he was standing there resting his head on me :) i dont really want to send him off to a trainer as i know we can get through this. we have already gotten past so much. he was neglected for a long time before i got him. i really dont think he had been handled a whole lot. he wasnt wild or anything but you could tell he hadnt done much of the basics like being led or tying up or listening to people in general. if anything i would go with him to a trainer if it came down to it. i am thinking of taking him to a natural horsemanship place. its not like parelli or any of that stuff its more just one of those bonding, respect kinda things.
red hawk - he gets fed in his yard in a up feeder. we have taught him that he cant eat before we tell him to eg; by moving away from the feed bowl. usually he just stands behind until we are done.
there is no issue in the saddle in fact he is coming along really well which is surprising. its like we only have a relationship in the saddle but to have a good thing going under saddle you need to have the ground respect happening which we dont so why are we getting on so well in the saddle?
thanks for the links. ill have a look at them :)
dumas - jarred knicks off on me all the time when i go to catch him. i use the leadrope to make him run and considering he is a lazy so and so he stops in about half a dozen strides and doesnt move an inch when i walk up to him again
we do play such a game of tug 'o' war over the dominant position but once he is haltered he is much better....mostly anyways
appy - as i mentioned a little up there ^^^^ i will go to a trainer if i need to but i never have before and its a last resort for me :) stubborn, maybe. confident i can get through it, definitely
but yeah, i will go if things get any worse. as long as things dont get worse i will plod along myself but if anything escalates ill get someone in. i am planning on getting some trainer help soon for under saddle so maybe i can do both at once.
yep he has a rope halter
i get rich to video me every time i ride. im fanatical about watching myself ride so i can see where im going wrong etc :)
i do sometimes carry a whip but i dont want that to be what our relationship is all about. i want to get his respect and my dominance but i dont want to be seen as 'that human with a whip'. thats why ive always used my arms and my voice. sometimes he actually moves away from me too...sometimes...ok, rarely
i guess ill just continue with what ive been doing and organise a trainer for under saddle lessons and he/she may be able to give me some help while im there ;) we are buying a float in the next month or so so i will be able to haul him to a trainer for some lessons. it will be good to have some lessons and have someone push me to work him a little harder too. i tend to go soft and jarred needs softness yes but a certain amount if firmness as well.
anyways, ive rambled enough now lol