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  • When a horse chases other horses because he wants them out
  • Extreme aggression from one gelding to another

 
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    02-07-2011, 11:28 PM
  #1
Foal
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I have a 7 year old Canadian mare that I have had since she was 3 month old. She has lives all year around with an old gelding and 2 mini donkeys for a very long time. When a new gelding came she was extremely aggressive towards him. She was biting and kicking. Also, I went for a trail ride with a friend of mine and my mare was alright towards my friends horse during the ride. Later, the two horses were grazing in-hand when their heads got a little closer (about 4 feet-ish). My mare pinned her ears back , swung around, and kicked my friends mare.

What do you think this is about? How do I fix it? Should I punish her for being aggressive or is it just natural?
     
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    02-08-2011, 03:00 PM
  #2
Started
Unfortunately, it sounds like your old gelding did not do his job of instilling herd skills and manners in your mare when she was little. Adding a single horse to the mix is always going to be problematic as your mare can single him out and run him into the ground. If you need to change her herd skills, remove her from the situation where she's the dominant horse and put her out with a band of established mares (putting her in a mixed herd will complicate the issue). It will have defined structure, be pretty peaceful and rarely if ever result in injury. She will be isolated and held away from the herd for a period of time until she is contrite and accepts their terms. She will work up the ladder with some time but in the process she'll develop skills to make her a better leader.

If that's not a road you can go down, at the very least under saddle and in the presence of another horse, she can't even be allowed to make a face at this point. You have to be ready for her to misbehave and reprimand her before it escalates into a kicking match. What if she'd connected with your friend? What if she'd broke the other mare's leg? There are warning signs that we must pay attention to. If you have a friend with a solid, unflappable horse I'd set her up to misbehave. Spend a ride having your friend invade her space as as soon as she thinks about making a face, WHACK. Just once. Have the other horse come back into her space, face?, WHACK. She'll pick it up that it's not the place and time when she's with you.

It is "normal" when they're turned out. Someone wants and needs to be in charge. Unforunately I think it all comes down to who has herd skills and who does not. The ones that lack in skills are the ones who are the bullies.
     
    02-10-2011, 08:14 AM
  #3
Yearling
Left-Hand Percherons has great advice. Just the caveat I want to add is that the established band of mares-solution *might* work for a horse who is aggressive, but doesn't really want to be alpha and who's horse-aggression hasn't become a completely ingrained habit.

The mare I have owned for over 11 years has horrendous equine social skills and really cannot be turned out safely with other horses. She's never quite grasped that one can be dominant and move another horse with fairly subtle body language -- rather, she charges other horses, chases them, and then whirls around and tries to double-barrel them. Sometimes she's been able to go out with one (extremely submissive) horse she likes and been okay, although she'll have days where she chases the horse around. You can't increase the herd number to two or more other horses, as she'll select one as "her" horse and be dangerously aggressive about driving the others away. Putting a horse like this with an established herd with a strong but fair alpha mare just makes her act even nuttier and more aggressive, as the alpha mare is unlikely to back down and run from her.

However, when she's being ridden or handled by people, she's a perfect angel. Provided something else doesn't provoke her by trying to kick or bite first, she wouldn't dare make a face or lift a leg. That's the best you can do, in my experience, with a horse-aggressive horse. Train them that they cannot behave that way when humans are around. Horse-aggression when you are in the way is about as serious a NO as it gets, just short of being aggressive towards you. My horse has always been sweetness and light towards people but when she threatened another horse while I was in the position to get caught in the cross-fire, I went batsh*t crazy at her, yelling, jumping up and down, chasing her into a corner of a stall, thwacking her with a lead rope, basically making her think she was going to die. She never did that again.
     
    02-10-2011, 08:32 AM
  #4
Green Broke
I agree with the two previous posts. I have a gelding who is almost exactly like what thesilverspear describes he simply can't be in the same paddock as other horses because he is so aggressive (especially towards geldings). He is also the sort to pick one horse and not let anyone else near it and that is not helpful when there are three horses. So he can still see and touch other horses over the fence but he can not share a paddock with them. But he rarely behaves that badly when someone is handling him and another horse gets to close and when he does play up he gets in trouble. Whereas I have seen other horses that simply needed a more dominant horse to show them the rules of behaviour.
     
    02-10-2011, 03:06 PM
  #5
Weanling
Agreed. My 2 year old mare is starting to get mean to other horses. I am doing my best to WHACK when I see the face or the feet (lol)
     

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