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    09-22-2012, 06:42 PM
aggressive horse issue...

My horse is awesome I've been working with her nearly every day and she's coming along very nice. She does everything I ask her to she'll stand all day, lead anywhere/over anything, point to the trailer and load, woah, gee, haw, over gee, over haw, and back, on command and is gentle around the whole family. Then today I got an email saying that one of the two new horses brought into her pasture since two or three days ago has gotten bit about fist size by my 1.7yo... When I got her she had been pastured with other horses, when I moved her to colorado she immediately tore down the fence after being introduced to her new pasture a week after arriving to the boarding facility, then I moved her to a stall with run so she wouldn't hurt herself. Then she was moved into a large pasture where there were no other horses but her and a pack of llama's for a couple weeks. Everything was fine she as usual was respectful and responsive. Then they brought an AQHA mare who was very low in the pecking order and not really all there mentally who my filly herded around and did the normal offer to kick pin ears routine but nothing major. Then this horse ended up having to leave and two days ago a TB mare was brought in. She stayed in a seperate pasture for the night and then her and my filly were introduced to which my filly and her apparently fought a little bit but by the time I had gotten there a few hours later they were grazing together but the TB was being herded around. Now another horse was brought in an my filly has as mentioned above bit her quite substantially (to what I've heard via email). I'm not really sure what to do about this I understand horses have a pecking order which needs to be established does this sound normal and like it will resolve itself in a few days or do I need to intervene? My BO suggested I did GW but what type of ground work would work for this situation.
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    09-22-2012, 06:51 PM
That's just how horses are. It's not really a problem you can "correct" because it's normal horse pecking order behavior. It's the risk you run when you turn your horses out with each other. The worst thing the other owner can do now is to remove the horse and put her back in later - they will have to resolve the pecking order all over again. Usually once the pecking order has been established, there will be no more damage if they continue to coexist with each other.
    09-22-2012, 06:53 PM
That's what I thought I gave my BO permission to remove my horse from the herd since she was being the aggressor and pasture her in the field which shares a fence but I wanted to make sure there wasn't anything as an owner I could do to help the situation.
    09-22-2012, 06:55 PM
Perhaps the TB owners needs to do GW with her horse, considering the horse did not have enough sense to get the hell out of the way when its neck was being chomped on, lol.
    09-22-2012, 06:57 PM
ROTFL that is too funny!
    09-22-2012, 07:02 PM
Ground work would not change her attitude to other horses when out on her own, in the pasture. I would think that time will settle things, and since you were there first, that the owner of the thbd should move HER mare, not you move yours.

And, if they are fed together, then accomodations need to be made so that everyone gets their food without fighting.
    09-22-2012, 07:07 PM
They arent being fed together as of yet, the grass in the pasture is lush enough that they all free graze and stay fat. The issue is coming from two new horses being brought in I suppose one of which is the BO's new lease mounts so it's a bit of a touchy situation.
    09-22-2012, 07:07 PM
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I had a 16 hand horse - Irish draft type that had to be shot after a 13.2 bully pony shattered its back leg when it got him in the corner in the field. They had been together in a herd of about 6 - all geldings - for a couple of months but that pony never gave up on him
I've never been of the 'let them sort it out' opinion since then.
Sometimes taking the aggressive horse out of the field for a while and then re-introducing it as the 'newcomer' will work, your horse will always be bossy and tend to be aggressive towards any new horse put into its pasture unless it meets its match - which could mean your horse will be the one getting the abuse
    09-22-2012, 09:22 PM
Well that is just the way horses are and communicate with each other if you turn them out in a group. I have 9 horses together and there is always some biting and kicking going on.... but we recently got a 5 year old and put him with our other horses after getting to know each other over the fence, well they were fine while seperated by a fence but once they were actually togehter in the field he was attacking one after another, so we took him out of there (to be fair to the other guys) and now he has to live by himself for a little while, see how he likes that. He was really brutal and did not let go of my others... sometimes there is just nothing you can do - if they do not get along they don't. I don't believe that there is any ground work excercise that would help with the problem. But if there is let me know!!! Maybe they will settle after a little bit!
    09-23-2012, 01:16 AM
Groundwork will never fix a herd pecking order with horses. It will obviously help a human - horse pecking order, as you might have noticed there are quite a few posts regarding horse-human aggression on the forum. There is no denying though, if you get the right herd dynamics going, you can quite a happy functional community of horses all living together with only the odd scuffle.

However, horses will be horses when it comes to sharing a pasture and they cannot be monitored like school children.....who wants to deal with the 1200lb bully on his turf?

It is a risk that horse owners take when they decide to pen or pasture their horses with other strange or even familiar horses.....I've seen a single blade of grass become something worth getting your head kicked in for!

If I were you, I'd pen my horse's not the worth the hassle of having to deal with other anxious horse owners and their injured horses.
(there seems to be a growing trend of horse owners believing that horses are like dogs, and if your horse bites mine I am going to sue you for the vet bills, it's happened!)
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